"Portly Angler" Weigh In?

[fishsmith]

It'll take 100 bowls of mini-wheats to match the fiber in 1 bowl of colon blow. rip Phil Hartman, that was one funny skit.




TDF - I'm still plug shopping, but it will arrive.

[BrianS]

I went to a nutritionist yesterday.

Whole Grain is key.. but still not alot of it

2 LARGE salads daily...
Eat as many RAW veggies as you want
7 servings of fruit daily...

WATER WATER WATER....

Red Meat is poison...
Chicken is only marginally better
Fish is Marginally better than that.
BUT.... still chicken/fish only 1-2 times a week

Im on a no meat diet for 6 weeks... she says the average person loses 20lbs on it.

(Yes I think she was a card carrying Vegan Hippy)

[zacs]

Originally Posted by BrianS

Red Meat is poison...
Chicken is only marginally better
Fish is Marginally better than that.
BUT.... still chicken/fish only 1-2 times a week

I have a degree in Food Science & Nutrition.

I think this is VERY POOR advice.

I'm sure you will lose weight, but it is not healthy advice.

The key is MODERATION>

There is no secret. Decrease calories. Eat an equal balance of protein, carbs & fat. Increase exercise. Period.

Very easy to type, very difficult to execute.

[Clogston29]

Originally Posted by BrianS

Red Meat is poison...
Chicken is only marginally better
Fish is Marginally better than that.
BUT.... still chicken/fish only 1-2 times a week

if you're only going to eat meat once or twice a week, i hope she pushed that fact that you're going to have to be really careful to make sure that your getting enough protein from other sources (i.e. beans, flax seed, etc.). Research vegetarian diets. Its easy to go wrong and make yourself sick. I don't buy what she told you at all. Fatty or fried cuts of meat are bad, but I've never heard anyone say that white meat chicken and fish are bad for you. I'd limit red meat to once or twice a week, and avoid fatty cuts, but one or two serving of meat a week sounds like a recipe for muscle atrophy and short term weight loss only. she definately seams to be on the extreme side of things. that would be a really tough diet to maintain.

[zacs]

Originally Posted by BrianS

Im on a no meat diet for 6 weeks... she says the average person loses 20lbs on it.

PLEASE BRIAN. BE VERY CAREFUL.

Unless you know what you are doing, this can be dangerous. Please consult with a real Doctor.

I'm sure you will lose 20 lbs on this. Probably more! But at what cost?

[BrianS]

Originally Posted by zacs

PLEASE BRIAN. BE VERY CAREFUL.

Unless you know what you are doing, this can be dangerous. Please consult with a real Doctor.

I'm sure you will lose 20 lbs on this. Probably more! But at what cost?

This chick is in my primary care providers office and he referred me to her.

The plan she gave me is from a Dr. Fuhrman...
Pyramid
Top Level (Rarely Eat) - Beef Sweets Cheese/Milk Processed Foods/Hydrogenated Oil
Next Down - (Once Weekly) Poultry Eggs Oils
Next Down - (Twice Weekly) Fish, Fat Free Dairy
Next Down (5-20% of calories) - Whole Grains, Raw Nuts, Seeds
Next Down (20-50% of calories - Fruits / (10-30%) Beans/Legumes
Bottom level (30-70%) Vegetables 1/2 raw 1/2 cooked

Then I have another list of examples of what to eat more/less of. Also plenty of other documentation. She isnt just throwing me out there. We discussed it and how I should plan meals etc.

[The Dad Fisherman]

You can't cut out everything....just eat human portions and you'll probably be fine. You need protein every day. So if she's telling you to not eat meat period you are going to have some problem because that is a big source of protein......looks like a lot of beans in your future.

Nothing wrong with Chicken or Fish I make sure i have something like this once a day.

Fatty Red Meats are definitely not the best for you but there is no reason you can't have a 95% lean burger (Normal Sized and only 1) for supper once in awhile.

The biggest problems with eating habits is we don't eat a proper sized portion of anything. We eat 1/2 lb. burgers (2 of them), a pound of pasta, a 44 oz. soda. Eat healthy and proper portions and you'll be fine.

[zacs]

Boy, i can't stop thinking that she told you to only eat fish 1-2 per week at the MAX!

That is just plain CRAZY.

There is nothing more healthy in the world than fish. Studies have been done to show that cultures that have diets high in fish have lower cases of heart disease, cancer, alzheimers, etc...

Boy. that is just plain horrible. what a kook.

i said it before, but I will repeat

There is no secret. Decrease calories. Eat an equal balance of protein, carbs & fat. Increase exercise. Period.

Very easy to type (even eaiser to cut & paste), very difficult to execute.

[BrianS]

She actually did express the need for lots of beans and did mention the flaxseed etc.

LIke I said.. Card carrying vegan hippy.. Im sure she was.. and while I didnt type out the whole thing she told me, it made sense to me when she was explaining it.

In any case, its a lifestyle change for sure.. no matter what you do.

[johnny ducketts]

lets just bump this back up

[BigFish]

I am a meateater....I like to smother my vegetables in beef, chicken, pork! My meal diet is not an issue....you gotta eat! My problem is/has been/was that I eat too damn many baked goods and take alot of cream in my coffee...ALOT! I have removed all that from my diet and will see how that goes.....donut free so far in 08'!

[fishsmith]

Plug is packaged and will be in the mail monday morning.

Sweet ain't the word, this plug will have you fat ba$tards sticking your finger down your throat .

[BrianS]

saw my personal trainer this morning (two free visits with my gym membership) she got me started on a good program.. gonna revisit it in a month or so...

[Duke41]

I am hitting the gym 4 times a week and eating healthy and no sweets or carbs. Weigh in is monday am....will post. since I can't make a wooden plug worth a %$%$%$%$ I will go to Quacker Leg and buy one. Rock on fellow lard asses!!!

[scone]

Originally Posted by Duke41

Rock on fellow lard asses!!!

i like this- looks like i have a new motivational saying for the wall in the dungeon.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Big 1st Weigh-in is tomorrow.....Sounds like everybody is doing well. had a bad day Saturday (Pats Game Party)....but rebounded yesterday.

I will get pics of plugs up either tonight or tomorrow....sorry for the delay

[Adam_777]

uggg weigh in tomorrow.I always had to get taped !

[The Dad Fisherman]

Here's a couple of the Shwag plugs to get the juices flowing.....just make sure its vegetable juice . I'll post more as they come in.

[BigFish]

You guys are in trouble.......I just had a sneak peek!

[The Dad Fisherman]

The pants feel a little looser so I'm hoping for good things tomorrow myself.

[fishsmith]

-7lbs to 178, I think I'll fish that yellow plug first.

[Slingah]

208.....7 lbs lost

[Duke41]

365.3 waaahhh!!

[The Dad Fisherman]

256....that would be a big 10 lbs.gone

I'll will update the 1st post with the totals and percentage.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Duke, what happened?....and what can we do to help? Thats also what this thread is for.....a helping hand if you need it

[zacs]

Official weight @ 8:30AM
253 lbs.

That makes me -18 lbs.

I can't be too excited, though. I have been here before, too many times actually, and I know that the first 20 are very easy (for me).

it is the next 10 that are the hill i haven't made it over.

we'll see..

[BrianS]

As of last night - 346 so -9lbs

[spinncognito]

239- A sad plunge of 2lbs. Maybe I am just "Big Boned"

[Jenn]

Originally Posted by spinncognito

239- A sad plunge of 2lbs. Maybe I am just "Big Boned"

I too am joining the "-2lbs" club.....guess I have not been serious enough!!!

[BigFish]

295 Pounds! No exercise! Just cut out the crap totally! Pretty happy with dropping 5 pounds......25 more to go!