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01-16-2008, 01:18 PM
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Whats to come! this helps the winter blues..
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01-16-2008, 01:43 PM
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Hunting for a 40
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That helps take the chill out of the air!
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01-16-2008, 01:46 PM
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01-16-2008, 02:18 PM
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Wow that was awesome! Thanks for sharing that with us.
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01-16-2008, 05:03 PM
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Heh Billy,
Was Jim's cigar smoke used as a fish attractant?
Good stuff.
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01-16-2008, 05:22 PM
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I also saw the surf video with you and Steve, cool stuff.
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01-16-2008, 08:43 PM
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Great footage. Bill, what's the latest on Steve McKenna? How's he doing now?
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01-17-2008, 09:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by titan
Great footage. Bill, what's the latest on Steve McKenna? How's he doing now?
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Steve is hangin in there at the moment, its a slow process.
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01-17-2008, 09:34 AM
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Hunting for a 40
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Originally Posted by #^^^^^^&
Steve is hangin in there at the moment, its a slow process.
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Bill have they figured out what is happening? Did Steve finally agree to go to a real hospital?
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01-17-2008, 03:20 PM
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Havent figured it all out yet..
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01-17-2008, 04:36 PM
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Hey Bill, Great Footage There,, Enjoyed It...
I still can't believe that they wouldn't touch anytype of artificial offering,did you try some top-water comotion like pencils etc., ?
Anyway I would have to agree the reduction of what these Bunker Boats are taking down here in Jersey is paying off coastwide. We have be expierencing a similiar spring rebound seeing some larger fish on a consistent basis and its all bunker-driven....
Thanks Again,,,
Steve
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01-17-2008, 04:43 PM
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Well it does show the proof doesnt it, Jimmy tossed evey lure imaginable at those fish and nada...never even looked twice..When they want live bait, they want live bait...It is telling...I dont care what plug you have you would go and say there are no fish when in fact it was paved with 100s of bass...Thats why plugs are not at all a detrermining factor as to fish being there or not, you should always have a backup of eels or bait...That video proves it...
The other thing it proves is just how close to the beach we are in broad daylight ! in 6 foot of water! They are there all day and we were almost on the beach...So it also despells the myth that fish are only in the shallows at night...Thats bull...I used to think that also but was proven very wrong....If you go and dont catch its because your not giving them what they want not because they are not there....
That day with an acomplished angler like jim fishing all those plugs...and nothing to show for it with tons of fish around proves that the plug hype is just that all Hype....Nothing beats the real thing!
Also we were not fishing where there were already bunker there so cant use that excuse, we brought the bait to them and they were all over it....
We had over 12 Million pounds of Bunker in the bay this past year....There is no shortage....its awesome!
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01-17-2008, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by #^^^^^^&
The other thing it proves is just how close to the beach we are in broad daylight ! in 6 foot of water! They are there all day and we were almost on the beach...So it also despells the myth that fish are only in the shallows at night...Thats bull...I used to think that also but was proven very wrong....If you go and dont catch its because your not giving them what they want not because they are not there....
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Oh I have seen this first hand aswell,we have a pretty good night time area that produces good quality fish on a consistent basis year after year from one end of the season to the other.. We narrowed it down to a certain stage in the tide and its also very close to the shore were we wade out and only cast out 20-30yds. I started to experiment the same place during the same tide in the daylight and sure enough they are there,not always on the feed but at times can be just as good if not better...
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01-18-2008, 05:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^&
Well it does show the proof doesnt it, Jimmy tossed evey lure imaginable at those fish and nada...never even looked twice..When they want live bait, they want live bait...It is telling...I dont care what plug you have you would go and say there are no fish when in fact it was paved with 100s of bass...Thats why plugs are not at all a detrermining factor as to fish being there or not, you should always have a backup of eels or bait...That video proves it...
The other thing it proves is just how close to the beach we are in broad daylight ! in 6 foot of water! They are there all day and we were almost on the beach...So it also despells the myth that fish are only in the shallows at night...Thats bull...I used to think that also but was proven very wrong....If you go and dont catch its because your not giving them what they want not because they are not there....
That day with an acomplished angler like jim fishing all those plugs...and nothing to show for it with tons of fish around proves that the plug hype is just that all Hype....Nothing beats the real thing!
Also we were not fishing where there were already bunker there so cant use that excuse, we brought the bait to them and they were all over it....
We had over 12 Million pounds of Bunker in the bay this past year....There is no shortage....its awesome!
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I like the quote from the Danny Pichney interview By Tim Coleman. Coleman, " It takes more skill to catch a fish with a plug than a bunker? Pichney,"definitely".
Pichney on bunker fishing "It's certainly nothing to learn to do". There are a few exceptions where you have to learn to cut bait but you don't have to be a bass fisherman".
That guy should be made a saint. Plugs forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Why even try.........
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01-18-2008, 06:57 AM
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You can be an excellent fisherman and use live bait as well.... no?
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Good health and family
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01-18-2008, 07:39 AM
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I have used live bait for years. In early spring we would raise fish on herring Like #^^^^^^& said "If U where plugging u might not even think there are any fish there."
I have used that line before myself..Then later on when the bunks first show when the water is still a little cool to the bass's liking only a live will get em.That toss ur bait up in the air we call the diner bell.It does 2 things I believe on the sound of the bait smashing the water acts like another bass swating a random baitfish.2 it stuns the bait slightly.Bunker have a great little built in motor boat.They will out swim a bass many times as they don't wanna go thru all the work to chase em.I can't count all the times the diner bell has worked.Even with herring when they run out of gas..I believe there is a reason for everything..they will hit plugs when temps are right it's like a light switch gets turned on.Add the competition of many fish an plugs will work also..IMO I can catch just as good in fact better/faster with lures.I had 2 outing this season where I landed 750 lbs of bass.I can hear the doubters now.All on lures from the shore.
Not sure about the conditions that day in the film it looked cool.Jackets can be decieving on a boat.Trust me when things line up right plugs will take em..
I wanna also say this is no knock on Capt' Jims Plugging skills.
Just tryin to add some insight..
Thanks for the link I don't get to see them down here in NJ.I enjoyed it.
I even enjoyed the squid guy..
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01-18-2008, 08:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flaptail
I like the quote from the Danny Pichney interview By Tim Coleman. Coleman, " It takes more skill to catch a fish with a plug than a bunker? Pichney,"definitely".
Pichney on bunker fishing "It's certainly nothing to learn to do". There are a few exceptions where you have to learn to cut bait but you don't have to be a bass fisherman".
That guy should be made a saint. Plugs forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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well, thats an opinion but one I disagree with, if the bass doesnt want a plug, no amount of skill in the world is going to make them take it, and there is alot more to fishing bunker than cutting bait...I agree it does not take rocket sceince to live line a bunker...However it takes smarts because a smart fisherman will use it when nothing else works...and as I said, I dont care how skilled you are bass will not take what they dont want...Its called versitility...and utilizing all means.
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01-18-2008, 08:23 AM
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Finally
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flaptail
I like the quote from the Danny Pichney interview By Tim Coleman. Coleman, " It takes more skill to catch a fish with a plug than a bunker? Pichney,"definitely".
Pichney on bunker fishing "It's certainly nothing to learn to do". There are a few exceptions where you have to learn to cut bait but you don't have to be a bass fisherman".
That guy should be made a saint. Plugs forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ya know Steve, even though Bill hates to admit it, he's a really good plug fisherman too, and I like to think I am too, we just enjoy fishing live bait at this point. You just happen to enjoy fishing plugs. It's good to do what you enjoy...Isn't it? 
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01-19-2008, 03:09 PM
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Thanks, Bill!
Good stuff, and excellent insights to the daytime presence of decent sized Bass. The Crazy One talked of the same thing and spoke of chunking during the day in his PI seminar last winter  .
Interestingly, though, your 50#er and your 60#er this year came at night, right? I too, believe that "they won't hit what they don't want, no matter how bad you want them to hit what YOU want them to hit!" Nice to have some of my own thoughts echoed by more than one of our area legends!!! Had a coupla experienced surfanglers tell me to arsenal down, but when I hop the rocks I take eels, chunks, wood, rubber, jigs, and tins. I doan want to be caught without what Morone wants!
Classic stuff seeeing youse two work that pod of bait and boat those beauties   !
And yes!! I do believe it is a sweet and telling harbinger of next season's fortunes!
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