Warning to those buying Hab's on ebay

[beamie]

If the seller doesn't have this exact product then yes he is a scum and I thank Dave for posting this so people are aware and don't get scammed, but no one knows that yet.

If he does have it then I still don't see the problem. OK maybe it is against ebay policy. Maybe he doesn't have a camera.

No I am not selling the needles. I would fish them if I had them, not try to make a quick profit.

It is not copyright infringement if the photo isn't copyrighted from the photo taker. Publish or perrish....this is why sometimes you see a silouette of the selling company in the photo, then you really can't copy it.

Many times you see someone selling a new fishing reel NIB but use the stock photo from the online catalog with all the reel description
right off the manufacturers sight. Same same.

[Pete_G]

Originally Posted by beamie

It is not copyright infringement if the photo isn't copyrighted from the photo taker. Publish or perrish....this is why sometimes you see a silouette of the selling company in the photo, then you really can't copy it.

Many times you see someone selling a new fishing reel NIB but use the stock photo from the online catalog with all the reel description
right off the manufacturers sight. Same same.

Both scenarios are copyright infringement. You could even Photoshop an image and it's STILL copyright infringement, "derivative use" is also unacceptable.

Copyright is implicit. You don't need watermarks or to have "Copyright" stated at the bottom of the page.

I only watermark SWE images these days to make it easier to stop people from using them. When I contact the thief and the image they are using has our watermarks it comes down promptly. When they weren't watermarked they often give me the "oh, our web guy isn't in today, we'll get to it as soon as we can".

You'd be surprised how broad copyright protection really is.

[beamie]

Pete,

I stand corrected if what you say is true. To me it just doesn't seem to be a big deal as some people think, it is just a picture.

So your saying everyone on Ebay that is selling a NIB fishing reel using a stock catalog photo and description is technically wrong and against the rules/law?

[Pete_G]

Originally Posted by beamie

Pete,

I stand corrected if what you say is true. To me it just doesn't seem to be a big deal as some people think, it is just a picture.

So your saying everyone on Ebay that is selling a NIB fishing reel using a stock catalog photo and description is technically wrong and against the rules/law?

They may not get prosecuted, but yes. Unless they have permission to use a company's media tools (most dealers do).

I know most people view a picture as "just a picture", but we've (The SWE) spent many, MANY $$ and hours creating quality images (as did someone somewhere in the case of any quality image) for our website. The computers we work on, the software, and paying the people to do the work, etc. It's an investment we make to help differentiate ourselves from others and it costs serious time and money. And then a competitor takes the image for free and sells the same product on our dollar and time? The image issue strikes close to home for me because we have had a lot of issues with it.

[NJTackle]

Originally Posted by Pete_G

They may not get prosecuted, but yes. Unless they have permission to use a company's media tools (most dealers do).

I know most people view a picture as "just a picture", but we've (The SWE) spent many, MANY $$ and hours creating quality images (as did someone somewhere in the case of any quality image) for our website. The computers we work on, the software, and paying the people to do the work, etc. It's an investment we make to help differentiate ourselves from others and it costs serious time and money. And then a competitor takes the image for free and sells the same product on our dollar and time? The image issue strikes close to home for me because we have had a lot of issues with it.

I could only imagine the time you guys spend on photos. IMO, they are the best I've seen for fishing tackle. Very well done!!!