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01-11-2009, 07:18 PM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 8,760
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Propiante is better. withstands them teeth marks
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01-11-2009, 08:27 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 84
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I still get it up here in Mass. just had to search around a bit.
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01-11-2009, 08:55 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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Quote:
Originally Posted by striperman36
Propiante is better. withstands them teeth marks
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I never found that to be so. You would have to do 50 dips to get that.
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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01-11-2009, 08:56 PM
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The Black Dog - Emma
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Central Jersey (Hightstown)
Posts: 439
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Waterlox - good sealer - one of the many things thing I wouldn't skimp on - split plugs suck
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Ride the spiral to the end...............
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01-12-2009, 12:09 PM
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Covered in Sawdust
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 358
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorM
I never found that to be so. You would have to do 50 dips to get that.
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I agree with you ProfM about the Proprionate. I have pencils poppers that are chewed to hell by big blues. The proprionate didn't hold at all. That is why I switched to another sealer. I think I did 5 dips.
I also tried sanding sealer, had mixed results.
Now I use spar eurethane and mineral spirits 60/40 (thanks to suggestions from people on here).
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01-12-2009, 02:39 PM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 8,760
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorM
I never found that to be so. You would have to do 50 dips to get that.
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Really, that would not be good.
I'll have to view the accursed plug. I am doing all of mine with a initial propiante soak, following by several dips, then painting, followed by about 30 dips.
Not enough to be yellow eyed proof?
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01-12-2009, 02:44 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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With that many dips you probably might be ok but who has time for 30 to 50 dips. I have not got the patience to do that. I have never seen a plug that withstands bluefish teeth. Might be out there but I have never seen one. Hell my ranger plugs got teeth marks in them. IMO I came to the conclusion it is too much work using the propionate. Notice IMO, which is not worth a lot. Others may feel different and that is A OK too.
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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01-12-2009, 03:46 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Attleboro, MA
Posts: 453
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I have been using sanding sealer........seams okay. I am just trying to avoid having to mix anything with mineral spirits.
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01-12-2009, 04:10 PM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 8,760
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorM
With that many dips you probably might be ok but who has time for 30 to 50 dips. I have not got the patience to do that. I have never seen a plug that withstands bluefish teeth. Might be out there but I have never seen one. Hell my ranger plugs got teeth marks in them. IMO I came to the conclusion it is too much work using the propionate. Notice IMO, which is not worth a lot. Others may feel different and that is A OK too.
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I avoid fishing for bluefish, except with metal as you know.
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01-15-2009, 07:49 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: some where on the water
Posts: 2,313
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val-oil Ive been getting it $10.00 qt $30.00 gal I believe, it's SIMPLE (like me) I like it. 
GOOD LUCK GOOD PLUGGIN
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01-15-2009, 09:11 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: in the water, CT
Posts: 1,486
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I use propionate for protoypes. Can go in the water in a couple of hours.
I use etex for sealing. imo, epoxy is superior sealer because you get durability + sealing. I personally thin a bit with D. Alcohol then poor on and in to plug for 100% simple and easy coverage.
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Regarding Propionate, if you want crazy penetration and durability, put plug in jar, close jar and leave over night (jar of prop. I use 1/2 gallon mason jar). The next day, take plug out and you can wipe off excess if you have very thick solution. In a few hours you get the acetone evaperaoted and you are left with a hard penetrated covering. You do NOT get this doing these quick dips that most people are doing.
I still prefer etex though for sealing, even with a organic respirator, I prefer to not be around acetone fumes if I can help it.
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Some of these old school methods, that are pretty common, I shy away from them because they do not add to durablity. That is just my opinion though.
- blo/ms, valoil etc.
good luck guys

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01-11-2009, 10:30 PM
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Plug Builder in Training
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: wareham MA
Posts: 4,046
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Quote:
Originally Posted by striperman36
Propiante is better. withstands them teeth marks
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Tried it 4 dips with the propiante and could still smell the AYC , IMO if you can still smell the wood after the dip it is not sealed good enough.
Back to Spar Urathane for me.
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