Live Broadcast of Steve McKenna's Presentation at the SWE - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

JohnnyD · 03-05-2009, 03:38 PM

The one of the SWE guys should send me a pm so we can talk about options to get them away from that 35mm slide projector. Their website is incredibly above the rest of the pack in terms of order taking and in-stock monitoring. I am in awe whenever I go to their site with the ways they have integrated their online catalog, in store stock and forums and created a seamless experience for the customer from top to bottom. Time to get their presentations into the 21st century too.

striperjerk1 · 03-05-2009, 04:43 PM

Thanks SWE .. that was the best .
Thanks Steve .

Sweetwater · 03-05-2009, 04:44 PM

I caught the first hour of the SWE show and Steve's presentation before I had to tend to other things. It was very good. But agree with JohnnyD that the old Kodak slide presentation could stand to be updated, especially for a live stream (and JohnnyD would be just the guy to do set them up right).

There was some commentary among the "remote" people about spot burning (which maybe got the SWE folks a little perturbed), but the comments were really applicable to a lot of waters and I don't think his presentation means everyone is going to flock to those specific spots (but I don't fish RI waters often so maybe it's not my ax to grind). Anyway, great job and thanks to SWE for putting it on.

fishaholic18 · 03-05-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweetwater

There was some commentary among the "remote" people about spot burning (which maybe got the SWE folks a little perturbed), but the comments were really applicable to a lot of waters and I don't think his presentation means everyone is going to flock to those specific spots (but I don't fish RI waters often so maybe it's not my ax to grind). Anyway, great job and thanks to SWE for putting it on.

Are you kidding??? It was in complete detail...from driving directions to which rock to cast to... I feel real bad for the guys that fish those spots...It'll be a zooooooo.........for sure... I've seen it many times...

JohnR · 03-05-2009, 05:04 PM

My personal opinion and the official policy of the site is to not discuss spots in great detail as this is not the forum for it, recorded for all history, and certainly when in a combination spot/report. However having this kind of talk at a fishing show or event or among a small group of people is different not unusual. Information should be shared, I just think a public forum, forever googlable, is not the besxt location for spot stuff. A bit different (I think & hope) in what SWE is doing with their broadcasts... Though with the SWE folk do it from their rocks at say blanks neck or certain spots along the walk. Most Aquidneck fisher folk I've talked to over the years would do things that make urban Detroit after a Championship win look like Pleasantville USA

fishaholic18 · 03-05-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnR

My personal opinion and the official policy of the site is to not discuss spots in great detail as this is not the forum for it, recorded for all history, and certainly when in a combination spot/report. However having this kind of talk at a fishing show or event or among a small group of people is different not unusual. Information should be shared, I just think a public forum, forever googlable, is not the besxt location for spot stuff. A bit different (I think & hope) in what SWE is doing with their broadcasts...

JR...I watched it...beginning to end....if you saw it...believe me..you wouldn't be happy.....it was live broadcast...100+ were watching on the net.....

DZ · 03-05-2009, 05:26 PM

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JR...I watched it...beginning to end....if you saw it...believe me..you wouldn't be happy.....it was live broadcast...100+ were watching on the net.....

I didn't watch it but heard about it. I'm just glad it didn't cover Newport areas. The video might be a good idea on how to stuff though.

DZ

fishaholic18 · 03-05-2009, 05:29 PM

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I didn't watch it but heard about it. I'm just glad it didn't cover Newport areas. The video might be a good idea on how to stuff though.

DZ

May be next...

woodghost · 03-05-2009, 05:33 PM

You guys are to much!!!! Atleast pete and the guys gave you something to b@#ch and moan about for the next week or so!!!

I was there and steve gave a very informative presentation...as usual!!!
Steve was asked specific questions about fishing the spots and said
" I'm not going to give you all the info, put in your time and figure it yourself" Piont blank and straight forward. The info he gave WAS a LITTLE more than you would get from a surfcasters guide. I have an idea...lets all burn those books...i know i've learned of more than afew spots that were hot in the 1800's talk about spot burning! If you ever fished any of these spots you would know most of them are a zoo anyway!!! Any one of those spots can be found in books!
If it wasn't for spot burning then how did you guys get some of your spots...oh here we go tell me you all "put your time in"! ask your self if you've ever heard someone elses conversation and went down and tried that spot! Or have you ever told someone else how to fish a spot? If you haven't shared some knowdledge then shame on you, YOU are killing our sport!!! Now I'm not saying you need to tell everything...although some of you will read it that way!!! I am saying help some one out, just as someone probably helped you out at one time!!!
ANd if those are YOUR secret spots then you need to more research and learn some new areas!!!

Sweetwater · 03-05-2009, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by fishaholic18

Are you kidding??? It was in complete detail...from driving directions to which rock to cast to... I feel real bad for the guys that fish those spots...It'll be a zooooooo.........for sure... I've seen it many times...

He was very specific, but Steve's been giving these presentations for years as well as being published in various magazine. He said that he fishes the same spots himself and there's no one around. I get the concern though.

Clammer · 03-05-2009, 06:48 PM

I knew it has been too f $%^&*()_ quiet around here >..I thought it was the economy >><<><><,

BassDawg · 03-05-2009, 08:28 PM

Well Done by Steve and The Edge!!!

i thouroughly enjoyed the presentation from
the comfort of my pc monitor, further cementing
the Edge's "state of the art" position of this internet
explosion that has impacted the surfcasting community for BETTER and for sum worse!

which brings us to the alleged spot issues!!!

if anyone has earned the right to espouse about ANY of the waters
that he mentioned it IS Mr McKenna and others,,,,,,,,they know who they are.

in my view the places that he mentioned ARE very generic, they ARE written about and have been mentioned by other seminarians~~ quite extensively. i mean, if a kid from Tulsa(me) can "find out" about the very same spots he mentioned within my first 40 trips to the shore, then the grapevine isn't as secure as most might think!

granted his legacy notwithstanding, Steve is just sharing with others as he was also shared with,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and why not learn the generalities of certain selective areas from one our sport's masters? more improtantly i believe that Steve was using each particular location as a demonstration of technique which IS germaine to his presentation. that was the first time i "got it" about how to jig with current, and for that i am most grateful.

ROCKfish AWN, gents, and Thanks for the great show last night!!
also, what they did is very different from posting here or <ova there for ALL lurkers to see and get dialed into, permanently as opposed to a mere extension of a live presentation~~just some thoughts!

Pete_G · 03-05-2009, 09:19 PM

Just as an FYI, the broadcast was just that, a broadcast, and in reality it has ZERO difference from a presentation at a fishing show.

It was not recorded so it can not be re-broadcast or uploaded to YouTube, and end users/watchers were unable to record it.

As John mentioned above, forum posts that last forever and are easily Googled (or articles published in a magazine for that matter) are very different from a one time broadcast to a crowd no bigger then that at a fishing show.

One thing that has become clear a few years later after the infamous OTW article (for me anyways) was that a lot of us were too hard on Steve about it (myself included). I mostly fish Newport as it's where I live but I do cross the bridges and head East and when I do I rarely find any of the spots mentioned in the original article occupied after dark.

Apologies to those who took issue with the broadcast. We do understand your concern. While we had reservations knowing the history of the "spot" issue our feeling was that the one-time nature of it (and that the presentation in many ways was not new) it would not be an issue.

fishaholic18 · 03-05-2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BassDawg

Well Done by Steve and The Edge!!!

i thouroughly enjoyed the presentation from
the comfort of my pc monitor, further cementing
the Edge's "state of the art" position of this internet
explosion that has impacted the surfcasting community for BETTER and for sum worse!

which brings us to the alleged spot issues!!!

if anyone has earned the right to espouse about ANY of the waters
that he mentioned it IS Mr McKenna and others,,,,,,,,they know who they are.
I disagree...Who gave anyone more rights than the other guy...Publicity????

in my view the places that he mentioned ARE very generic, they ARE written about and have been mentioned by other seminarians~~ quite extensively. i mean, if a kid from Tulsa(me) can "find out" about the very same spots he mentioned within my first 40 trips to the shore, then the grapevine isn't as secure as most might think!
The locations may be "generic"..but the time, technique..etc..are not..Too much info..

granted his legacy notwithstanding, Steve is just sharing with others as he was also shared with,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and why not learn the generalities of certain selective areas from one our sport's masters? more improtantly i believe that Steve was using each particular location as a demonstration of technique which IS germaine to his presentation. that was the first time i "got it" about how to jig with current, and for that i am most grateful.
Master???? Are u kidding me???How are you designated Master?? Jigging current..or an other technique is common sense and trial and error..don't ya think?

ROCKfish AWN, gents, and Thanks for the great show last night!!
also, what they did is very different from posting here or <ova there for ALL lurkers to see and get dialed into, permanently as opposed to a mere extension of a live presentation~~just some thoughts!

Not picking on Steve..He seems like a good guy...Just the whole thing in general