Obama picks Sotomayor for high court

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Originally Posted by scottw

you didn't listen, qualified doesn't matter either way to the dems..

Doesn't sound like it matters to you either...

my comment is not out of context and her's is on tape...nice try...

So did you listen to the tape?

Here's her full comment in response to a student asking about the differences between circuit and district court experiences.

The saw is that if you're going into academia, you're going to teach, or as Judge Lucero just said, public interest law, all of the legal defense funds out there, they're looking for people with court of appeals experience, because it is -- court of appeals is where policy is made. And I know -- and I know this is on tape and I should never say that because we don't make law, I know. OK, I know. I'm not promoting it, and I'm not advocating it, I'm -- you know. OK. Having said that, the court of appeals is where, before the Supreme Court makes the final decision, the law is percolating -- its interpretation, its application. And Judge Lucero is right. I often explain to people, when you're on the district court, you're looking to do justice in the individual case. So you are looking much more to the facts of the case than you are to the application of the law because the application of the law is non-precedential, so the facts control. On the court of appeals, you are looking to how the law is developing, so that it will then be applied to a broad class of cases. And so you're always thinking about the ramifications of this ruling on the next step in the development of the law. You can make a choice and say, "I don't care about the next step," and sometimes we do. Or sometimes we say, "We'll worry about that when we get to it" -- look at what the Supreme Court just did. But the point is that that's the differences -- the practical differences in the two experiences are the district court is controlled chaos and not so controlled most of the time.

If you take the time to read her full comment, think critically about what she was saying and then reflect on the meaning it should be clear to just about anyone that she was simply stating the obvious.

he record with supreme court appeals is outstanding! only overturned 60% of the time, doesn't matter, she'll be confirmed and we'll have another activist on the bench preaching the merits crap....

It looks like she authored 380 majority opinions in 11 years, 5 of which made it to the Supreme Court and 3 of which were overturned. That's your 60%? 3 of 5?

Considering that the Supreme Court only chooses to hear selective cases, to even use the 3 without understanding the circumstance and how the majority ruling differed from her's make the number pretty meaningless...

Unless of course you're trying to pedal misinformation.

Don't you have anything of substance today? So far you've provided no evidence to support the assertion this is an activist pick.

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Doesn't sound like it matters to you either...



So did you listen to the tape?

Here's her full comment in response to a student asking about the differences between circuit and district court experiences.



If you take the time to read her full comment, think critically about what she was saying and then reflect on the meaning it should be clear to just about anyone that she was simply stating the obvious.


It looks like she authored 380 majority opinions in 11 years, 5 of which made it to the Supreme Court and 3 of which were overturned. That's your 60%? 3 of 5?

Considering that the Supreme Court only chooses to hear selective cases, to even use the 3 without understanding the circumstance and how the majority ruling differed from her's make the number pretty meaningless...

Unless of course you're trying to pedal misinformation.

Don't you have anything of substance today? So far you've provided no evidence to support the assertion this is an activist pick.

-spence

I did...
I'm worried about you buddy...you've gone way over to the Chris Matthews leg tingling land...

even her advocates are saying that the tape, her reversal record and the pending appeal could be problems...I don't know why...is it a shock to anyone that liberals want their liberal judges to legislate from the bench?...it's how they get things done in a democratic society...

yes 3 out of 5 =60%...might get a little worse with one pending, we'll see

again, i'm not saying anything that her defenders aren't saying in this regard...go to the New Republic...there's a great article on a far left site which is pretty funny because the whacko lefty's are savaging their own whacko lefty for daring to question the Justice-to-be and her record...absolutely LOVED that

for the third time...she will be confirmed...don't get your panties in such a bunch...it will be nothing like the disgreceful conduct that you see from democrats toward republican nominees

still like to get a pool going on this one...

is she a lesbian? just asking because i was listening to a liberal radio show on the road the other day and they were panting breathlessly at the thought of a gay nominee...I heard her mention mom and brother and sister-in-law yesterday but no hubby or kids...it's an obvious question isn't it?...if so this pick isn't a home run but a grand slam....

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Originally Posted by scottw

even her advocates are saying that the tape, her reversal record and the pending appeal could be problems...I don't know why...is it a shock to anyone that liberals want their liberal judges to legislate from the bench?...it's how they get things done in a democratic society...

If that's the worst they have on her then I don't see many problems.

You still have not presented anything that indicates she's an activist pick.

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

If that's the worst they have on her then I don't see many problems.

You still have not presented anything that indicates she's an activist pick.

-spence

we agree...she shouldn't have any problems...so what will the vote be?...keep in mind they're reporting that Blago got a check from Burris

you haven't produced anything that indicates she's not an activist..so there!

Obama would not have selected her if she were not an activist Spence Alynski...are you freakin' kidding me !

I requested all of her files and she hasn't gotten back to me, maybe she'll listen to you since you are "in the loop"...if it eases your troubled mind to disregard what I've written over my failure to take the considerable time that you devote to this to list all of her "activist" rulings in the past including the one currently before the Supreme Court........then so be it...you would one way or another anyway......you remind me of Danny Devito in MATILDA...where he tells Matilda..."I'm big, you're little....I'm smart, you're dumb...I'm right , you're wrong"....you need some glue in your hat

fond memories....

from WIKI
Reagan nominated Bork for the seat on July 1, 1987.

Within 45 minutes of Bork's nomination to the Court, Edward Kennedy took to the Senate floor with a strong condemnation of Bork in a nationally televised speech, declaring:

"Robert Bork's America is a land in which women would be forced into back-alley abortions, blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters, rogue police could break down citizens' doors in midnight raids, schoolchildren could not be taught about evolution, writers and artists could be censored at the whim of the Government, and the doors of the Federal courts would be shut on the fingers of millions of citizens for whom the judiciary is -- and is often the only -- protector of the individual rights that are the heart of our democracy... President Reagan is still our president. But he should not be able to reach out from the muck of Irangate, reach into the muck of Watergate and impose his reactionary vision of the Constitution on the Supreme Court and the next generation of Americans. No justice would be better than this injustice."[10]

A brief was prepared for Joe Biden, head of the Senate Judiciary Committee, called the Biden Report. Bork later said in his best-selling[11] book The Tempting of America that the report "so thoroughly misrepresented a plain record that it easily qualifies as world class in the category of scurrility."[12] TV ads narrated by Gregory Peck attacked Bork as an extremist. Kennedy's speech successfully fueled widespread public skepticism of Bork's nomination.

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You're going in circles now.

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

You're going in circles now.

-spence

not at all...we can both look at her rulings...one by one... and I will call them "activist" rulings and you will say they're not...then we will argue over the definition of activist judges and maybe after that is exhausted we can argue the merits of if in fact judges should be activists...clearly many think they should be, including this one...if you listened to the tape she was very clearly stating that courts should and do make policy and the joked because she was among "friends" that "oh, I probably shouldn't say that because I'm on tape"...in HER OWN WORDS" still doesn't matter...she'll be OK

there's a great article in THE HILL...looking at it pretty much from both perspectives "Is She an Activist" check it out...

oh, Spence, if you go there read the article detailing what attorneys have said about their experiences arguing before her and her general temprement and knowledge of the law...this might be better than I thought....

not in circles..going fishing...PEACE

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

...if you listened to the tape she was very clearly stating that courts should and do make policy and the joked because she was among "friends" that "oh, I probably shouldn't say that because I'm on tape"...in HER OWN WORDS" still doesn't matter...she'll be OK

I don't see how any thinking person could come to that conclusion. You still haven't actually read her words have you?

-spence

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by spence

Unless of course you're trying to pedal misinformation.

-spence

Spence, that would be "peddle", not "pedal".

[scottw]

I could be on my bike

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Originally Posted by fishbones

Spence, that would be "peddle", not "pedal".

Sorry, I just bought a sweet new road bike and it's on my brain

-spence

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by spence

Sorry, I just bought a sweet new road bike and it's on my brain

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Congrats on the purchase! I hope it's not too much of an adjustment going from a high horse to a road bike.

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Originally Posted by fishbones

Congrats on the purchase! I hope it's not too much of an adjustment going from a high horse to a road bike.

Anything to help the local economy. I am a patriot...

-spence