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		|  07-15-2009, 08:33 AM | #1 |  
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				 So I'm a Mile Out 
 Yesterday afternoon, when I realize I've forgotten my PFD. Knucklehead! Back in I go, up the hill to the truck, back out. Man, sometimes I think I've lost it, whatever "It" was or is..Spent the morning tweaking the yak, I think that I've solved the aching back problem. My milk crate was fitted with two PVC rod holders, they make a great backrest. No aches or pains after 3 hours, none at all.
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		|  07-15-2009, 09:00 AM | #2 |  
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				 | Fred don't you have a flotation device permanently installed around your waist?  |  
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Originally Posted by Flaptail  "Throw plugs like we do that will cause them to suffer humility. Pogies make any fisherman look good when bass are around. Bait is easy."
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		|  07-15-2009, 02:27 PM | #3 |  
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				 | I've done the same...  freakin blows. |  
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		|  07-15-2009, 02:51 PM | #4 |  
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				 | good for you for going back in and getting it!  I feel naked without mine! |  
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		|  07-15-2009, 05:06 PM | #5 |  
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				 Well today I didn't forget 
 Good thing. Don't believe for a second that a FnD can't be rolled. One second I was reaching back for the bait cooled the next I was under water. At one point I remember saying "You gotta be chittin' me.." Only 500 feet out. I'll see if I can find the rods at low tide. There are a few bugs to work out, I think.A before shot, yer right Lu, I do have two PFDs, or one and an air bag.
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		|  07-15-2009, 06:27 PM | #6 |  
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				 | Fred!!! Leash them rods!!  |  
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		|  07-15-2009, 06:30 PM | #7 |  
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					Originally Posted by BigFish  Fred!!! Leash them rods!!  |  And your paddle also. |  
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Originally Posted by Flaptail  "Throw plugs like we do that will cause them to suffer humility. Pogies make any fisherman look good when bass are around. Bait is easy."
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		|  07-15-2009, 06:45 PM | #8 |  
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				 | If I ever see the rods again, I'll Boy Scout knot the bejeebers outa them. I was slack. The paddle is leashed, I figure if I lose that, I'm really The pliers were leashed as well. So how do you get to the cargo behind you with becoming a funny story for all the folks on the beach? It was a real PIA to reach that cooler.Thank God for the good sense to install side handles last week, without them I'd still be drifting.
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		|  07-15-2009, 09:25 PM | #9 |  
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				 | Are you sitting on a big seat cushion?Raising your center of gravity above the center of bouyancy?
 2" makes a big difference
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		|  07-15-2009, 09:49 PM | #10 |  
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				 | Pete F, yes I was . I put 2" of EVA between my seat and the deck. I guess that the foam is a goner.. |  
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		|  07-16-2009, 04:39 AM | #11 |  
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				or....
			 
 buy an outrigger
 that folds back to the side....
 
 then you can lean all you want in that direction
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		|  07-16-2009, 05:37 AM | #12 |  
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				 | To get the gear out of the tankwell, I just swing my legs over the side and sit sidesaddle. I fish that way a lot as well. |  
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		|  07-16-2009, 01:07 PM | #13 |  
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				 Believe it or Not 
 I found both of my lost rods! With and enormous effort from my neighbor GaryS. He wouldn't let me quit. I was more than ready to head back to the house and spend the afternoon with my other Bud, Weiser. Keep going, he said. OK. I feel like Mel Fisher!! The reels are full of sand, but that's no problem. Whoohooo! |  
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		|  07-16-2009, 01:17 PM | #14 |  
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				 | wow congrats on finding the rods!  yeah leash those suckas and everything else, make it a point to not leave shore without everything leashed.  
 good call Pete on the seat height, I've heard that can really be a big deal for the center of gravity....guess that was good info!
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		|  07-16-2009, 01:21 PM | #15 |  
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					Originally Posted by BigBo  To get the gear out of the tankwell, I just swing my legs over the side and sit sidesaddle. I fish that way a lot as well. |  That is how i do it also.Do you ever get strange looks when your fighting a fish sidesaddle?LOL |  
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Originally Posted by Flaptail  "Throw plugs like we do that will cause them to suffer humility. Pogies make any fisherman look good when bass are around. Bait is easy."
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		|  07-16-2009, 08:41 PM | #16 |  
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				 | I get a lot of strange looks, but I don't think it's because I fight fish sidesaddle.  |  
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		|  07-16-2009, 08:48 PM | #17 |  
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				 | Glad you are alright and got your stuff backbe careful man
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		|  07-19-2009, 06:43 AM | #18 |  
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				 | Fred,looking at your before photo,keep your Pfd at least partially zipped at all times.It doesn't do much good when floating up behind you. |  
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		|  07-19-2009, 11:53 AM | #19 |  
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				 | That's the before shot. While the PFD was buckled, I know it was not enough. I learn slow. When I went over, I bet I was in the water for 10 whole seconds. Didn't even lose my sunglasses. I zip it now, if I'd slipped through, wellllll.....  |  
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		|  07-19-2009, 12:37 PM | #20 |  
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				 | I keep anything I need in front of me in a small softside cooler and a small surf bag with lures and leaders.Reaching behind the seat is something I don't do.I have some bungee straps in the front that I put a surfbelt around and through the strap on the cooler.It keeps the cooler and plugbag atatched to the yak so I have one less thing to worry about.My yak is a 10ft inflatable so room is limited but I still say less is better.My yak loves chop and waves. |  
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		|  07-20-2009, 02:56 PM | #21 |  
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				 | Glad you got the rigs back Fred.  Like others said leash them. |  
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		|  07-20-2009, 03:26 PM | #22 |  
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					Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake  I found both of my lost rods! With and enormous effort from my neighbor GaryS. He wouldn't let me quit. I was more than ready to head back to the house and spend the afternoon with my other Bud, Weiser. Keep going, he said. OK. I feel like Mel Fisher!! The reels are full of sand, but that's no problem. Whoohooo! |  
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		|  07-20-2009, 08:58 PM | #23 |  
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				 | Sounds like you learned a lot from this and I'm glad not by the extreme hard way.  Everything could have been a lot worse.  Finding those rods was pretty clutch.  Good luck the rest of the season. |  
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		|  11-10-2010, 07:56 PM | #24 |  
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				Safety Bump
			 
 I'm not sure if this subject has been covered
 but what safety gear should you have on board
 a Kayak
 besides a flotation vest....
 
 to be on the safe side?
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		|  11-11-2010, 09:01 AM | #25 |  
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				 | More important to have safety equipment on you...if the yak floats away with it all your pretty well fuked. 
I got a whistle tied to my PFD and I want to get a small signaling mirror and a small waterproof LED flashlight to carry in the PFD. If I go in I'm more worried about them finding me instead of my Yak    
Also make sure if you are going to go fishing in a yak....get a fishing Kayak. Trying to reach behind you and fudging with gear, or loading it up with gear, in something that is made for touring can be a recipe for disaster |  
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		|  11-11-2010, 10:09 AM | #26 |  
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				 | one of those "can be seen for five miles" lazer pointers i saw on the hunting show seemed like a good idea,... |  
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		|  11-11-2010, 06:26 PM | #27 |  
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					Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman  More important to have safety equipment on you...if the yak floats away with it all your pretty well fuked. 
I got a whistle tied to my PFD and I want to get a small signaling mirror and a small waterproof LED flashlight to carry in the PFD. If I go in I'm more worried about them finding me instead of my Yak    
Also make sure if you are going to go fishing in a yak....get a fishing Kayak. Trying to reach behind you and fudging with gear, or loading it up with gear, in something that is made for touring can be a recipe for disaster |  Ironically I flipped my Fish n Dive trying to stow things behind me. Got sideways to a wave, that's all it takes. The young lady at work, whose brother is into yakking, chewed me out for not having a whistle on my PFD. I have a little strobe, too, incase I have to spend the night wondering where the Coasties are. Lazer is a good idea. 
 I think that familiarity with your vessel is paramount in importance. On a FAC day see how far you can lean it, deliberately flip it and re-enter, learn to reach everything stowed without flipping. If you can't reach the spot then that area isn't for things you'll need while underway. |  
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		|  11-11-2010, 07:03 PM | #28 |  
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 Nautica  just sent me an advertisement of a double kayak  
joined at the side  ....  with a platform so you could attach an outboard
 
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		|  11-12-2010, 01:45 PM | #29 |  
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				 | With what that thing will cost you, you would be better off just buying a used tin boat and motor. |  
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		|  11-14-2010, 10:04 AM | #30 |  
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				 | Fred,that is a nice looking kayak you have there   still waiting to paddle with you.a used tin and motor can be had for less money than a new kayak.my 12ft tin was 150 bucks,had the motor.not nearly as much fun as the kayak,plus a kayak can handle much rougher water than a tin. |  
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