Curious Question! Employees Rights?? - Page 2 - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

BigFish · 08-20-2009, 05:30 PM

It is what it is folks...there will be no lawsuits. I have many skills Scott......I am not too worried!

tynan19 · 08-20-2009, 06:05 PM

Should have hit him with a 4 oz Hopkins instead Larry. Sorry you lost your job and I would try and see what you can do with the corporate office.

afterhours · 08-20-2009, 06:37 PM

some people plain ole suck....looks like you ran into one

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Katie · 08-20-2009, 08:22 PM

Larry, I can relate to that situation all too well. I work at Home Depot. About a month ago now, a man came in and I was working down in the Lumber department. I rang this guy's sheet rock up like usual, nobody from the department had told me to do any different, nor did this customer. After I total the 5 sheets up, and he pays for it. NOW he starts a stink, asks how much they were, and mentions that they're damaged and tells me the manager okayed the 50% off each sheet because apparently one had a hole it it.. It was a sheet mixed in the middle of the 4. How am I supposed to see that, and he didn't even mention it. So he refuses to move, and I have a line of 6 or more people, and he's starting to yell for a manager and tells me " I hope you like YOUR job! "

At that moment, I bit my tongue. I wish I could have said the things I wanted to, but -- I called the manager, they of course finally told me the discount. After it was voided out, rang it all out again, and this guy was just EXTREMELY rude. He even laughed at me calling me names under his breath.

Sometimes you just have those a**hole customers and you can't do anything about it and just smile and say have a good day Sir!

Also had a customer twist my words of " I'll be with you in a moment " to him saying I said "Oh he can wait" That resulted me getting written up and 1 of the 4 managers, the strictest one -- and he yelled and kept throwing the word termination at me.

Gotta watch out for those people who just make your day!

striprman · 08-20-2009, 08:29 PM

You will find a better, higher paying job.

Duke41 · 08-20-2009, 08:37 PM

deny swearing and have your friend back you up. %$%$%$%$ Lowes and %$%$%$%$ the man

Backbeach Jake · 08-20-2009, 08:55 PM

Larry, these days I can't say that I'd have handled it differently or better. I used to really try with the public, but in the last 10 or 15 years they have gone crazy. It's harder than evey to keep your cool, they just expect and want so friggin much from the minions. Haven'
t the sack to go to management for their problems which are usually mental. So many crazy folks now. Sorry you lost your job over this #^&#^&#^&#^&, did you get his addy? Any how if your vacay is still on gimme a call, I wanna se your new yak in action... 0It amazes me what people expect sometimes.............

Rockport24 · 08-20-2009, 09:45 PM

sorry to hear about this Larry, customer service jobs like that can be a beyach and just make you nuts, so I agree with the advice to find another type of job where you are relatively insulated from a-holes like that, although that is difficult to do I know!

BigFish · 08-20-2009, 10:03 PM

Katie to be honest...the job was not worth me biting my tongue! I get my health bennies through my wife and what they pay me an hour was just not worth it......not to mention I was the most helpful, polite and hardworking person in the store!!!

Duke....I don't lie. It was what it was and I am not going to lie about it! I am a man, a human being and I will not be treated like that by anyone ever and will never see the need to lie about that! I have pride and high morals.....I will take the lickin'!

FishermanTim · 08-21-2009, 10:23 AM

It would have been fun, in a twisted sort of way, if you knew that you were getting canned and turned to the jerk and said "Wait for me outside!" and see how fast his car can go.

BigFish · 08-21-2009, 10:33 AM

I should have just gotten in his face and been done with it......I did show some restraint!!

PaulS · 08-21-2009, 10:34 AM

Unfortunatly, everyone needs to remember that workers basically no more rights.

fishbones · 08-21-2009, 10:41 AM

Larry, forget about it and don't look back. You have better things in your future than that job provided you with. No job or customer like that is worth giving a second thought to. Get out and fish and enjoy time with your family and friends.

Swimmer · 08-21-2009, 10:59 AM

Should have smiled at him Larry, and when you placed the pallet of very heavy quickrete on his trailer a design flawed in the trailer wold have become obvious when it collasped to the pavement under the weight of the pallet.

FishermanTim · 08-21-2009, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by fishbones

Larry, forget about it and don't look back. You have better things in your future than that job provided you with. No job or customer like that is worth giving a second thought to. Get out and fish and enjoy time with your family and friends.

I couldn't agree more.
"Like water off the back of a duck", just move on knowing you were/are the better man!

striperman36 · 08-21-2009, 11:09 AM

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No Larry you are a representative of the company you work for. You just don't do stuff like that and expect to keep your job. You are the image of the company.

There's no grounds for a wrongful termination lawsuit here. He openly called a customer an a$$hole. He was terminated for just cause based on this. I'm not an attorney but I'm willing to bet you could check with any attorney that specializes with labor claims and he'd tell you the same thing.

Edit and what Jenn said above is spot on.

Hope you find another job, it's going to be tough now with 10% jobless.

Don't forget MA is an 'at will' state. No contract exists between you and the employer. You can be terminated any time for no reason.

Joe · 08-21-2009, 11:10 AM

You seem disgruntled....I say you should go back there and show them that they can't do this and expect to just walk away intact.

Gloucester2 · 08-21-2009, 11:26 AM

I've met Larry, I've talked to Larry . . . I come up to about his elbow
This guy must have been nuttier than squirell %$%$%$%$

The Dad Fisherman · 08-21-2009, 11:33 AM

At Will doesn't mean they can just Chit Can you.

There still has to be a reason for a firing. You can be laid-off, but that doesn't affect your ability to collect Unemployment where being fired can affect it.

Covenant of good faith and fair dealing exceptions (aka. "Implied-in-law" Contracts)

U.S. states with a covenant-of-good-faith-and-fair-dealing exception

Only eleven U.S. states have recognized a breach of an implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing as an exception to at-will employment. These 11 states are:

Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
California
Delaware
Idaho
Massachusetts
Montana
Nevada
Utah
Wyoming

This exception for a covenant of good faith and fair dealing represents the most significant departure from the traditional employment-at-will doctrine. Rather than narrowly prohibiting terminations based on public policy or an implied contract, this exception – at its broadest – reads a covenant of good faith and fair dealing into every employment relationship. It has been interpreted, by some courts, to mean either that employer personnel decisions are subject to a “just cause” standard or that terminations made in bad faith or motivated by malice are prohibited.

Slipknot · 08-21-2009, 04:04 PM

Oh well, their loss Larry, I guess they don't know a hard worker when they see it, but they have rules. Can't say as I blame you for losing it a bit , the guy showed you zero respect and you took it up to your breaking point. Referring to him as an ahole within earshot

you must have known he would rat you out.

Now you can get that job at Dunkin Donuts you've been waiting for and show them how it's done

have a great vacation big guy

ProfessorM · 08-21-2009, 06:08 PM

Oh well at least you didn't belt the douche bag and get sued. Just a job, you'll land on your feet. Enjoy your vaca and worry about it after you get back.

flyvice11787 · 08-21-2009, 06:20 PM

Wow, just saw this. Sorry to hear you lost your job, Larry. When you deal with the public all the time, you'll end up meeting some real a**holes

. It's worse for me, as I'm a supervisor, and have to deal with the rude obnoxious customers that my employees can't deal with. Rule of thumb is not to talk back to them. I've learned to hold my tongue. I don't let them get the satisfaction of getting a rise out of me. Nothing gets them madder than when I point out that the customer may not always be right (with a straight face and without insulting them

). Hope it all works out for you.

Raider Ronnie · 08-21-2009, 07:03 PM

Walmart is always looking for door greeters !
I know the one in Walpole Ma. even has a Dunking Donuts just inside their front entrance where the greeter works !

BigFish · 08-21-2009, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Slipknot

Oh well, their loss Larry, I guess they don't know a hard worker when they see it, but they have rules. Can't say as I blame you for losing it a bit , the guy showed you zero respect and you took it up to your breaking point. Referring to him as an ahole within earshot

you must have known he would rat you out.

Now you can get that job at Dunkin Donuts you've been waiting for and show them how it's done

have a great vacation big guy

Thats funny Slip!!

Almost spit out my coffee!

bassackward · 08-22-2009, 10:52 AM

Sorry to hear the news. You can stand tall (not a problem, having seen you) knowing you stood up for your principles. You'll get through this and look back on it proudly. I hope to go out in a blaze of glory and expletives when the day comes. People just don't respect eachother any more. We're all fed up, even those with good paying jobs. Too bad we don't often get a mulligan for having a bad day with a short fuse.

Does anyone know the difference in collecting unemployment when it comes to quitting vs getting fired?