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[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

JD...is this your version of Spence word games? Obama and a plethera of those involved with the attempt to overhaul the health system have stated in the past, in their own words and not out of context that they support, prefer, WANT a single payer system...they also point out that the understand that they can't go straight to such a system but can "help" it along over time...either you think these folks have changed in their desire for a socialized, government run single payer system or you are complicit in the misrepresentation of what the ultimate goal and result of Obama/Kennedy/Democrat Congress/Marxist care would be...

Funny, when I try to articulate what Obama means in your often out of context sound bites, you accuse me of playing word games.

When you do it, in a "guilt by association because they belong to the same party" conspiracy rant...it's all rational and good.

Hypocrite.

-spence

[fishbones]

Is it possible to be for a single payer health care plan, then not be for a single payer health care plan?

Below are 2 quotes from the same person. Anyone want to venture a guess as to who said the following?

“I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program. I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its Gross National Product on health care cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody."

Sounds like he supports a single payer plan, no?

"I Have Not Said That I Was a Single-Payer Supporter’……`I believe it would be too disruptive"

Wait a minute. Now it sounds like he doesn't support a single payer plan. What gives?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by fishbones

Is it possible to be for a single payer health care plan, then not be for a single payer health care plan?

Below are 2 quotes from the same person. Anyone want to venture a guess as to who said the following?

“I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program. I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its Gross National Product on health care cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody."

Sounds like he supports a single payer plan, no?

"I Have Not Said That I Was a Single-Payer Supporter’……`I believe it would be too disruptive"

Wait a minute. Now it sounds like he doesn't support a single payer plan. What gives?

he was taken out of context

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by fishbones

Wait a minute. Now it sounds like he doesn't support a single payer plan. What gives?

Not to worry, even though the HR 3200 is as clear is as mud and nobody understand it,
and even though he has been trying to explain it to the American people many times for the last 2 months,
it will become crystal clear as he addresses it once more on Sept 9 th.

Just a slight communication problem.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Funny, when I try to articulate what Obama means in your often out of context sound bites, you accuse me of playing word games.

When you do it, in a "guilt by association because they belong to the same party" conspiracy rant...it's all rational and good.

Hypocrite.

-spence

just going by the ACTUAL words of OBAMA and many of the individuals involved with this attempt to socialize our healthcare....as always with this bunch you get to see what they really intend and think when they are speaking to the like minded....it's on tape and video Spence, I don't have to postulate about what these people think and spin the way that you do...simply take what they've said and add the language in the proposals and you can easily figure out where they're headed.... but you chose to believe Obama and what he says "today" to further his agenda rather than what his track record shows, that will CHANGE tomorrow and you will have to come up with an entirely new spin, I am consistent, you are constantly spinning and spinning.....
and routinely name calling I've noticed...like a little child...