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[fishbones]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I have no idea about Oregon, but in Massachusetts, evictions can be quite drawn out and costly for the owner of the unit. My complex had a line in the lease that stated I waived my right to a trial by jury and all issues would be handled through an arbitrator. I struck that line right through, initialed the change and didn't have much issue with the manager about them accepting it.

Like TDF mentioned, "Just say No!"

Johnny, your landlord didn't have an issue with you striking that section because those "waive the right to trial by jury" clauses don't hold up in court. It's just a scare tactic to try to keep people from suing. We have all employee's sign one when they are hired.

As to the flag flap, screw the landlord. The tenants should leave and move somewhere else. I'd be willing to bet that there are other, patriotic landlords in town who would be happy to have the tenants in their buildings. The woman with the no flag policy will end up with what she deserves. If someone is offended by the American flag, they should go somewhere else because this is AMERICA. If I travel abroad, I don't feel offended when I see the Italian flag or the German flag or even the French flag. If I'm in those countries, I expect to see the flags of that country. That landlord is a douche.

[Fly Rod]

My American Flag flies proudly, in my yard, on my property.

And my Marine Corp Flag, is displayed from one week prior to its birthday on November 10th till one week after.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by fishbones

Johnny, your landlord didn't have an issue with you striking that section because those "waive the right to trial by jury" clauses don't hold up in court. It's just a scare tactic to try to keep people from suing. We have all employee's sign one when they are hired.

As to the flag flap, screw the landlord. The tenants should leave and move somewhere else. I'd be willing to bet that there are other, patriotic landlords in town who would be happy to have the tenants in their buildings. The woman with the no flag policy will end up with what she deserves. If someone is offended by the American flag, they should go somewhere else because this is AMERICA. If I travel abroad, I don't feel offended when I see the Italian flag or the German flag or even the French flag. If I'm in those countries, I expect to see the flags of that country. That landlord is a douche.

My understanding is that it holds up in many cases, or people don't want to pay a lawyer to fight the point so that they can then pay a lawyer to fight the actual issue.

I'm completely onboard with your second paragraph. The landlord is a piece of crap. This isn't the the United States of Happy Fluffy Feeling-tenders.

Maybe if we let people get offended once in a while without having to buffer their feelings, this country wouldn't have developed into the overly-litigious nation it is today.

Politically Correctness and it's cousin, Tolerance, are a plague to this society. Essentially being a white, natural-born American, male in this society means you must approach every situation with kid gloves and tread lightly as you are always walking on egg shells.

Hell, there are many people that would consider me a racist for saying that we need to close the borders and stop immigration until the system can be overhauled.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Politically Correctness and it's cousin, Tolerance, are a plague to this society.

Actually, I think its Lack of tolerance that is a problem. Its what makes everybody get into everybody else's business. The fact they have no tolerance for the way the other person wants to do something.

Look at the fighting that goes on here on this board just on whether to keep fish or release them......neither one is illegal so STFU about it.

If everybody would just mind there own eff'ing business everything would be fine. You do your thing, I'll do mine and keep your opinions to yourself.

[fishbones]

[QUOTE=JohnnyD;717492]My understanding is that it holds up in many cases, or people don't want to pay a lawyer to fight the point so that they can then pay a lawyer to fight the actual issue.

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Johnny, I've checked into the legality of those documents and they can't stop you from suing your employer. By the same reasoning, I'd bet that it couldn't stop you from suing your landlord. If those documents held up, it would give a landlord license to do whatever they want at the expense of the tenant.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by fishbones

Johnny, I've checked into the legality of those documents and they can't stop you from suing your employer. By the same reasoning, I'd bet that it couldn't stop you from suing your landlord. If those documents held up, it would give a landlord license to do whatever they want at the expense of the tenant.

Thanks FB. I wasn't aware there was specific case law like that with regards to the arbitration clause in a lot of contracts. I'll have to keep that in mind for the future.