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				a friend of mine from the State dept. sent this. 
 
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My friends name is Paul. I did not say it was his quote. He e-mailed me. 
 
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		By "GIVING" Obama the Nobel Prize, they have effectively turned it into the equivilent of the Publisher's Clearinghouse Award..... It's now worthless! 
There were people much more deserving of the award that ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING. 
 
As my brother stated: I left a turd in the toilet that's just as deserving of that award.
 
Now I think I know where the stimulus $$ went!  
I was hoping that he would be more that the man before him, but unfortunately he was.....more of a disgrace.
 
When any person tries to do too many things at one time, they tend to do all of them very badly and Obama is the man!
 
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		 On the day he was elected,  75% of the countries around the world immediately changed their opinions of America.  So, What has he done?  You tell me. 
		
		
		
		
		
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				On the day he was elected,  75% of the countries around the world immediately changed their opinions of America.  So, What has he done?  You tell me. 
			
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Why is this not an endorsement of the American people, aren't they the ones that actually elected Obama?  So you tell me, WHAT HAS OBAMA DONE?  
		
		
		
		
		
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				On the day he was elected,  75% of the countries around the world immediately changed their opinions of America.  So, What has he done?  You tell me. 
			
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				That's a statistic that I think was pulled from the deep crevices of someone's ass. 
 
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				On the day he was elected,  75% of the countries around the world immediately changed their opinions of America.  So, What has he done?  You tell me. 
			
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 What has he done that changed the opinions of 75% of the countries of the world?
 
He's made us an easier target by screwing up just about everything he's tried to do.  
Those 75% countries are probably countries that want the U.S. economy to fail so they can swoop in like vultures. 
Pretty muchh EVERYTHING he's put his hands on left me scratching my head saying "WTF?" His predecessor may not have been the brightest bulb in the pack, but at least he tried to do what was best for the country MOST of the time.  
Obama seems like he's doing the worst he can do, but paints such a pretty picture that we left looking like villians if we challenge him at any point.
 
Remember, actions speak louder than words, and all he's done is talk, talk, talk .....  
		
		
		
		
		
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		 And those 75% wanted a United States that was less strong . IMO 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 How soon will Time and Newsweek award him the "Man of the Year/Decade/Century" honors? 
Come on now, just because he hasn't finished his first year let alone his first term shouldn't matter. Maybe while he's at it, he can apply for sainthood and be proclaimed the patron saint of hope and change? 
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				How soon will Time and Newsweek award him the "Man of the Year/Decade/Century" honors? 
Come on now, just because he hasn't finished his first year let alone his first term shouldn't matter. Maybe while he's at it, he can apply for sainthood and be proclaimed the patron saint of hope and change? 
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				What has he done that changed the opinions of 75% of the countries of the world? 
 
He's made us an easier target by screwing up just about everything he's tried to do.  
Those 75% countries are probably countries that want the U.S. economy to fail so they can swoop in like vultures. 
Pretty muchh EVERYTHING he's put his hands on left me scratching my head saying "WTF?" His predecessor may not have been the brightest bulb in the pack, but at least he tried to do what was best for the country MOST of the time.  
Obama seems like he's doing the worst he can do, but paints such a pretty picture that we left looking like villians if we challenge him at any point. 
 
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		The OPINION dialogue on is more a continuation of the 'anti-bush' rhetoric. 
I there by declare this is Bush's fault
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				The OPINION dialogue on is more a continuation of the 'anti-bush' rhetoric. 
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		 Its the Nobel Committee trying to steer American Politics.   
 
In a sense , they are committing  international espionage .   
Lets bomb them damned Norwegian Peacenick infiltrator!! 
 
  Please wait a week though so I can stock up on Cod Fish before the price goes up when we bomb the salted cod factories over there. 
 
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		It's a shame the spent all the charisma points on the Nobel Peace Prize Committee, he didn't have any in his pocket when he went in front of the Olympics Committee....    
Or maybe it was him coming that changed it... he never actually spoke to the peace prize folks and they still love him, but on the other hand he did speak to the Olympics folks and the US supposedly went from tied for first to dead last...    
		
		
		
		
		
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				It's a shame the spent all the charisma points on the Nobel Peace Prize Committee, he didn't have any in his pocket when he went in front of the Olympics Committee....    
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		 What should surprise anyone about this.  They give Gore the prize for something they told me about in grade school in the sixties.  He makes a movie about the problem and that gets him a Nobel Prize.  Just shows to go ya, is one more thing that can be bought. 
		
		
		
		
		
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				Again with this. Boy it's great he failed and the US didn't get the Olymipcs. We really dodged a bullet there, rush... 
			
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 I'm certain it saved us a ton of $$$ that would have went in the currupt hands of Obamas buddies. They would have needed federal money to pull it off and Obama would have printed some more.  
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		 I would say it is a case of the NPP being politicized.  
Do I think the administration lobbied covertly for it?  
No, but I don't think they had to. The Nobel people don't want to not fawn over the president.  
He's left with either accepting or saying, "Thanks, but I don't feel I've done anything yet for the cause of world peace."  
A highly principled person could reject it, but he's a politician and as such, he's not highly principled - so they make a political decision. He can't reject it and join a NVA General as the only two people with the distinction of turning it down. 
		
		
		
		
		
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				No, has more to do with the view that the US is in charge of the World. I'm not talking about the de facto leader, but rather that without our leadership the World will fail. Other Presidents have certainly thought it, but the people Bush surrounded himself with sure didn't have a problem saying it. 
  
The Nobel prize is certainly a bit of a novelty all things considered, but I do give Obama props for how well he spoke about it when he made his remarks. It's not like he asked for it. 
  
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