Sebile Hooks

[RoyL]

Originally Posted by Ken_J

Your "Pro Staff" needs to rethink something if we have to change the splits and hooks out of the package.

Now, the thing is, we are used to doing that with about 50% or more of the baits we buy, but if you are gonna charge 30 bucks, you make yourselves look greedy.

do the right thing

I think youre missing the point, its not so much the hardwear, but how we are fishing them. The hooks and rings are fine when fishing from a boat or the surf its when you put current and braid in the mix that the problem is there. They are going to a stronger split ring, but I still think that the problem will still be there. Look at the pics those are 270lb split rings turned to mush. The hooks and rings are minor in the price of the bait.

[Ken_J]

Originally Posted by RoyL

The hooks and rings are minor in the price of the bait.

So, do the right thing, and put premium hardware on your premium priced baits.

Dont ignore input from the end user. It is a bad habit that manufacturers get in to.

Most of us are not casual fisherman here.

Good luck to you and your company.

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by RoyL

I think youre missing the point, its not so much the hardwear, but how we are fishing them. The hooks and rings are fine when fishing from a boat or the surf its when you put current and braid in the mix that the problem is there. They are going to a stronger split ring, but I still think that the problem will still be there. Look at the pics those are 270lb split rings turned to mush. The hooks and rings are minor in the price of the bait.

In this quote you're essentially telling potential customers not to buy this product for canal use

[good2hook]

Originally Posted by RoyL

I think youre missing the point, its not so much the hardwear, but how we are fishing them. The hooks and rings are fine when fishing from a boat or the surf its when you put current and braid in the mix that the problem is there. They are going to a stronger split ring, but I still think that the problem will still be there. Look at the pics those are 270lb split rings turned to mush. The hooks and rings are minor in the price of the bait.

So u think its ok for us to spend 33.00 on a plastic plug, that we can't fish in current and with braid with the hooks it's supplied with? Someone's missing the point alright, i don't think it's us.

[RoyL]

Originally Posted by good2hook

So u think its ok for us to spend 33.00 on a plastic plug, that we can't fish in current and with braid with the hooks it's supplied with? Someone's missing the point alright, i don't think it's us.

what im saying is that from my experience it doesn't matter if the plug came with vmc 6x hooks and wolverine swivels, there still going to do the same thing. Yes the company is trying to beef up the hardwear, but its not going to change the design on the lure........The lure works and works extremely well.........Example I bent out two of the trebles on the double shot big fish gave me. does that mean Larry's hard wear sucks....if you ask me vmc hooks is what most people want. Canal fishing is a different type of fishing. Its brutal on every part of the equipment we use. A shimano stardic will not last as long fishing the canal as if you just used it on the beach. I keep my drag tight and with 65lb braid and the meat stick I use....I kick the crap out of what ever I throw. If you wanted to go chase fish around in the rocks you could use 12lb test and an 8 foot rod with out a problem on the hard wear it comes with, but with the amount of people and the conditions...you just cant do that there if you want to catch a lot of fish. So take it how you want...im not a rep or get any $$$ from this...Its a brand that I use and use proudly and back up 100%. I have out fished groups of people with them on a whole tide when nothing else produces. To me these lures are worth the price and I know im not the only one that feels this way. Now on a company note, Its not like the company is saying oh well thats to bad, its saying look we are trying to make it better, but for now here are a few ideas on rigging these baits that will help solve the problem your having with your type of fishing.....

I have been using sebiles down the canal for 3 years now and have caught many big fish on them. These lures work, yes you might have to get a little creative with them...but bottom line is they work

[mikecc]

Originally Posted by RoyL

I think youre missing the point, its not so much the hardwear, but how we are fishing them. The hooks and rings are fine when fishing from a boat or the surf its when you put current and braid in the mix that the problem is there. They are going to a stronger split ring, but I still think that the problem will still be there. Look at the pics those are 270lb split rings turned to mush. The hooks and rings are minor in the price of the bait.

Thats why I use the Rosco 6XH they do not rate it as high. They are rated at 125 lb but They are stronger than the Wolverine #7-270 lb. Wolverine is way over rated for the size.

[Tagger]

Originally Posted by mikecc

Thats why I use the Rosco 6XH they do not rate it as high. They are rated at 125 lb but They are stronger than the Wolverine #7-270 lb. Wolverine is way over rated for the size.

That's good to know .. I think the Cape Cod Canal should be the testing grounds for all fishing tackle ..