Ok, which one of you did this

[FishermanTim]

I sounds a little too coincidental for it to be a randon act.
My vote is for the plover-lovers wanting to further their cause by making "everyone else" be the bad guy.

Then there's the story this weekend about the Plymouth plovers and the beach restrictions. I always love when an outside party sticks their nose into someone else's business.

[MikeToole]

This occurred right on Hampton Beach where there is not shortage of kids doing stupid things. A few years ago one of the horse mounted police ran the horse over the eggs. The chances of a plover making it on such a heavy used beach is very small. Main reason their numbers are down.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by MikeToole

This occurred right on Hampton Beach where there is not shortage of kids doing stupid things. A few years ago one of the horse mounted police ran the horse over the eggs. The chances of a plover making it on such a heavy used beach is very small. Main reason their numbers are down.

They choose the most vulnerable locations to lay their eggs with easy access to predators, high susceptibility of losing a clutch due to storms, wind and high tides. That is why their numbers are down - their breeding behaviors are not conducive to the species longevity.

If there was a breed of monkey that tended to jump off cliffs to their death, the environuts would put netting at the base of every waterfall in the Amazon.

Humans beings, the only species that feels the weak and stupid should be nurtured instead of allowed to cull themselves out.

[Frankiesurf]

Actually the numbers are increasing coastwide. Not enough to stop protecting them but the efforts in place are mostly doing the job.

There is nothing by PETA stating any action taken or considered for piping plovers. They are against animal cruelty. The FWS is taking care of what it needs to, PETA is not involved due to this. Some people need to blame others for stupid deeds done by their own.

The lack of law enforcement on the beaches is another reason any Tom, #^&#^&#^&#^& and Harry can cruise the beach without the proper permits and destroy the habitat. Crack down on the soccer moms, stupid kids and drunks that want to prove a point and this kind of thing wouldn't happen.

[MAKAI]

Does any one think there is a magic number of plovers that will get access restored ?
Or would you imagine they would just have more to shepherd over ?

I can't see where a few accidental squashings would be acceptable.

But hey, I'm a cynic anyway.

[Frankiesurf]

When they are no longer deemed protected. There is no "magic number". They are migratory birds and do not always come back to the same area. Therefore the numbers in each area do change but the overall numbers stay the same.

For some reason people think that these birds will just fix themselves, others hope for extinction. Striped Bass are a living creature as these birds are. Most conscientious fisherman will make a big stink to save the bass but wouldn't care if these birds disappeared.

I, as a surf fisherman, fish for more than just the catch. I fish for the experience. The oytercatchers, the terns, the plovers, shooting stars, the moon, jellyfish, etc.. are all part of this experience. I do not want any of these to disappear as my experience would not be what it is without them.

[MAKAI]

I hope you never have to experience the horse head seal.
We could work around the birds, just walk.
But the seal herd.....35+ years of " experiences " on the cape. Poof, gone.
It aint the same in a boat.