Turnover of AZ Law...

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Raven

it's the labor end of it..... i'm referring to

you'd better learn to grow and pick your own food....

because the pickers would all be gone

and most white Americans (or non latino's)
wouldn't fill their shoes....

But that would be an opportunity for another government bailout--to save the growing and picking industry. Another stimulus package, perhaps, of about $800 billion, to allow the growing and picking industry to raise their wages and hire white Americans. An adequate amount of that money could be used to buy, say, 60% of the stock in the growing and picking industry as a government investment. This would ensure that the growing and picking industry would continue to adhere to the higher wages necessary to employ white Americans and would also give government the power to demand the correct quality of produce and working conditions. Government owning, er, having the major share of the industry could favor it over cheaper imports from third world countries, creating a sort of People's monopoly on something so essential as food--similar to the coming Health Care. The benevolent government will ensure that We the People have the best food, the best health, the best cars, and the best of whatever else may fail and needs to be restored with stimulus. And what remains of the $800 billion could be set aside for future election, er, investment and recovery purposes. The crashed economy resulting from deportation of illegals would be a smashing opportunity not to waste a crisis.

[Raven]

Originally Posted by detbuch

would be a smashing opportunity not to waste a crisis.

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i see the opportunity of Katrina's damage and of this gulf oil spill
as two "smashing opportunities" having gone to waste thus far.

Seems to me that the response to foreign disasters always takes precedence and even gets a more rapid response....from the feds.

the whole cutting of straight channels in the Marshland (which has resulted in making it disappear) and the Levies built by the army corps of engineers as the biggest blunders
in modern history.

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Another stimulus package, perhaps, of about $800 billion, to allow the growing and picking industry to raise their wages and hire white Americans.

Why should they raise their wages?

Clearly the free market as found level in the form of hard working laborers, reasonable margins and a product that's affordable for consumers.

-spence

[Raven]

Originally Posted by spence

Why should they raise their wages?

Clearly the free market as found level in the form of hard working laborers, reasonable margins and a product that's affordable for consumers.

-spence

you guys can throw around partisanship or run the numbers all ya want... but i look at their E-coli product their sellin me that's essentially a sponge that has soaked up a bunch of commercial sprays of all kinds or absorbed them in the roots and say No freakin way! DUDEs... because even at the cheap labor rates they have, they still have to throw quality out the window (meaning pesticide free)to produce enough volume to make a buck with all the after refrigeration from California, Arizona (where- ever) to here...
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they have these special squirting wands as they drive down the rows that spray the undersides.........
of the plants to outwit the mighty bugs and create a good looking............ but highly toxic product.

affordable

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by Raven

you guys can throw around partisanship or run the numbers all ya want... but i look at their E-coli product their sellin me that's essentially a sponge that has soaked up a bunch of commercial sprays of all kinds or absorbed them in the roots and say No freakin way! DUDEs... because even at the cheap labor rates they have, they still have to throw quality out the window (meaning pesticide free)to produce enough volume to make a buck with all the after refrigeration from California, Arizona (where- ever) to here...
~
they have these special squirting wands as they drive down the rows that spray the undersides.........
of the plants to outwit the mighty bugs and create a good looking............ but highly toxic product.

affordable

Don't buy them then. Justifying the illegal's presence here by saying that food prices will go up is insane.

You don't want chemicals, pesticides and genetically modified fruits and veggies, then by Certified Organic and **Do the Research**. Support your local farmers. Buy what's in season. Or join a farmers co-op. Keep the money locally and add jobs to our local economy.

Supermarkets can take their bitter, hard, light pink and barely ripened tomatoes and shove em. There's nothing like a locally grown, vine ripened tomato.

[justplugit]

According to USA Today, May 5 2010, emplyoyed Illegal imigrants work in the following fields.

4% Farming
21% Service Industry
19% Production
12% Sales
15% Installation and Repairs
10% Management
8% Transportation

So if these numbers are accurate, only 4% of Illegal immigrant workers are working in Farrning lowering the cost of food labor while all the other higher paying fields they work in are taking the jobs from the Legal immigrants and native born Americans.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

Why should they raise their wages?

Clearly the free market as found level in the form of hard working laborers, reasonable margins and a product that's affordable for consumers.

-spence

Yes, the free market "found" a level that was provided by the Federal Government allowing that level to exist. If the Federal Government tended to the duties it was originally intended to perform instead of gobbling up powers that were supposed to belong to others, it would have the time to solve the massive illegal alien population that the free market "finds" is willing to work harder and for less than "white folks" and "non-latinos". And States, such as AZ, from whom the Federal Government has stolen so much, wouldn't have to attempt to solve a legitimate Federal Government function. And yet, the Federal Government, having already usurped so much State, local, and individual power, sues AZ to stop it from helping the over-bloated Federales do what they are supposed to do. Our free market is for our free and individual citizens to enjoy, to populate, and to create. It is for our citizens to decide for whom they will work and for how much. And if the market is overstocked with citizens seeking work, the wages will, competitively go down. If less seek the work than is needed, the wages will go up. And a whole series of cascading economic results ensues. Illegal aliens should not be allowed to skew the market against the citizens.

[striperman36]

They are here illegally, admit it sign up or be taken to the exit.

Friend's SIL owes back taxes on wages earned by illegally who was using her SSN. Tried to file a work comp found out someone already had one in her name.

IRS garnered her wages for SS tax and federal, criminal court case found against her by judge, appealing to higher court would take more money than what is needed to be paid.

Take them all either make them legal or send them away,

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by striperman36

They are here illegally, admit it sign up or be taken to the exit. Yep

Friend's SIL owes back taxes on wages earned by illegally who was using her SSN. Tried to file a work comp found out someone already had one in her name.That is friggin horrible

IRS garnered her wages for SS tax and federal, criminal court case found against her by judge, appealing to higher court would take more money than what is needed to be paid.unfreakin real

Take them all either make them legal or send them away,

What safegaurds do the SS administration have to keep this from happening?

If they can't afford a lawyer, tell them to bring up to the presses attention and get on Good Morning America or something and inform the country to wake the f$5# up!

[Raven]

Just sneak in here illegally and Pregnant
and have an American Baby.

sure we'll Pay for everything .... no problem
after all it's an American

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

What safegaurds do the SS administration have to keep this from happening?

If they can't afford a lawyer, tell them to bring up to the presses attention and get on Good Morning America or something and inform the country to wake the f$5# up!

They tried to do all sorts of stuff. but she's still paying