Burning the Koran

[spence]

It's an interesting story all around.

Burning the Koran on 9/11 is just idiotic (unless you're crazy), and for P-Daddy to make a public comment warning of it's consequences is quite interesting, but hey, he is a bit of a politician.

I do agree this action will be used to incite people to violence against the West.

As ugly as the event is I do support their right to do it, but it doesn't pass the stupid test. Hell, they're even "praying" what their doing is the right thing.

There is an element of "shouting fire in a movie theater" that shouldn't be ignored.

Many (most) states also don't allow people to ride motorcycles without a helmet.

If it does happen and it's a big story, it wouldn't surprise me if Obama publicly condemns the event. While this may seem odd it's probably the right thing to do.

-spence

[Fly Rod]

Burn it! Burn it! Burn it!

We just lost two soldiers today without burning the f@#$@!#$^% thing. And we are going to lose more if we do not burn it anyway. Do you think they are going to stop killing our soldiers if it does not get burnt? Those of you that think that, are simple minded people.

The citizenry of this country had better stand up to the cowards of Islam. Are you going to be like the jews of world war 2? They walked into the showers to be gased and into the ovens without a fight. Are Americans going to let them slimmy BAS@#$%$ slit you from ear to ear?

Semper Fi

[likwid]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

Burn it! Burn it! Burn it!

More proof that this country is screwed.

[Fly Rod]

Originally Posted by likwid

More proof that this country is screwed.

And I'm sure you agree that it is okay for them to burn our flag.

Burn the Koran! Burn it! Burn it!

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

And I'm sure you agree that it is okay for them to burn our flag.

Burn the Koran! Burn it! Burn it!

I feel sorry for people like you
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[spence]

Originally Posted by likwid

More proof that this country is screwed.

I already filed this under "idiotic".

-spence

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

It's an interesting story all around.

Burning the Koran on 9/11 is just idiotic (unless you're crazy), and for P-Daddy to make a public comment warning of it's consequences is quite interesting, but hey, he is a bit of a politician.

I do agree this action will be used to incite people to violence against the West.

As ugly as the event is I do support their right to do it, but it doesn't pass the stupid test. Hell, they're even "praying" what their doing is the right thing.

There is an element of "shouting fire in a movie theater" that shouldn't be ignored.

Many (most) states also don't allow people to ride motorcycles without a helmet.

If it does happen and it's a big story, it wouldn't surprise me if Obama publicly condemns the event. While this may seem odd it's probably the right thing to do.

-spence

I agree with what you are saying Spence. Same could be said for a mosque 2 blocks from ground zero.

This "church" and it's pastor are not Christians by any definition.

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

Same could be said for a mosque 2 blocks from ground zero.

No, not really. Well, I'm sure the Pastor would violently agree with you. At least you both have that in common.

-spence

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

No, not really. Well, I'm sure the Pastor would violently agree with you. At least you both have that in common.

-spence

I violently disagree

The Muslims will handle this in their own way..... behead the Pastor.

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

"The Muslims" will handle this in their own way..... behead the Pastor.

Quotes added for emphasis. Another thing on which you and the Pastor would probably agree.

What some don't seem to get is that this whole thing is like a (really complicated) Chinese Finger Trap, and people like you and Fly are just pulling as hard as they can.

-spence

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Quotes added for emphasis. Another thing on which you and the Pastor would probably agree.

What some don't seem to get is that this whole thing is like a (really complicated) Chinese Finger Trap, and people like you and Fly are just pulling as hard as they can.

-spence

And if we release the pressure everything will be beautiful in the world???

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by spence

If it does happen and it's a big story, it wouldn't surprise me if Obama publicly condemns the event. While this may seem odd it's probably the right thing to do.

-spence

If Obama publicly condemn it, isnt he
- violating the separation of church and state? its not of his business what goes on in a church unless its a federal crime.
- failing to uphold the constitution? Isnt it the constiutional right for this church to burn the koran? there are no laws against it.

This is interesting and as usual I view this differently than most. I'll use the same argument I used for the Muhammed cartoon. I watch South Park all the time. They routinely have Jesus on their and make fun of various religions. yet, you have no death threats, not massive boycotts, no public outrage. yet you have that when a newspaper has a cartoon pic of Muhammed. from who? Muslims.
If we are about treating people equally and their rights, why should/do we treat muslims differently? If this guys burns the korans he shows the world he has no respect for other religions and cultures. If Muslims react, they show the world they dont believe in others freedoms of expression and if they react violently, that they are barbaric people. Unfortunately this will only reinforce what western culture already thinks of them. As Spence said, interesting
Its our country, our laws, our freedom , we should do as we see fit.
Muslims may not like him burning it, but he has the right. NYC residents may not like a mosque near ground zero, but they have a right to build it. No one said this is easy.

Funny, the pilgrims settled in Boston to escape religious persecution, when the Quakers came in, they hanged some and drove others out for not practicing the same religion as them. Aint religion great?

[spence]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

If Obama publicly condemn it, isnt he
- violating the separation of church and state? its not of his business what goes on in a church unless its a federal crime.
- failing to uphold the constitution? Isnt it the constiutional right for this church to burn the koran? there are no laws against it.

I don't think there's any law prohibiting from the President from speaking his mind.

Interesting comment I read yesterday, they said that many people some countries simply can't grasp our First Amendment rights or why Obama can't just stop the burning with a simple order.

-spence