Ground Zero

[RIJIMMY]

im going to assume Bryan is right.

But.....from a purely politcial standpoint, I cant believe his advisers are not screaming at him to go to NYC. Given the controversy around the mosque, it would have scored him big polictical points to go there. This is a missed opportunity. Big O needs all the points he can get.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

im going to assume Bryan is right.

But.....from a purely politcial standpoint, I cant believe his advisers are not screaming at him to go to NYC. Given the controversy around the mosque, it would have scored him big polictical points to go there. This is a missed opportunity. Big O needs all the points he can get.

Or it backfires completely b/c everyone shows up to protest the mosque.
it is a 'pickle' this year on where to go.

I'm assuming the (2) sources I saw (news articles) are correct as well, but you know what they say about assumptions. it makes an ass out of u and spence

[PaulS]

I usually post here to point out the hypocrisy of the OP - this certainly seem to fit the bill if Bryan is right

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

im going to assume Bryan is right.

But.....from a purely politcial standpoint, I cant believe his advisers are not screaming at him to go to NYC. Given the controversy around the mosque, it would have scored him big polictical points to go there. This is a missed opportunity. Big O needs all the points he can get.

I'm sure his advisors told him to go to NY which is prob. the reason he decided not to go.

[spence]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Given the controversy around the mosque, it would have scored him big polictical points to go there.

I think it would have fanned the flames of the controversy which helps nobody but the extreme Right wing and those hoping to capitalize on the political fallout...all of which is distracting.

-spence

[JohnR]

I think at SOME point he should be / have been there as it is the focal point of that day. Prime time probably to go was last year. 'Cept this time last year was shortly after the AF1 photo op over Manhattan, probably skipped NY then because of flak.

As someone that doesn't revolve around either party I gots to chuckle over the roles have reversed on "presidents". If it were only funny.

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

As someone that doesn't revolve around either party I gots to chuckle over the roles have reversed on "presidents". If it were only funny.

I've thought the exact same thing.

-spence

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by spence

I think it would have fanned the flames of the controversy which helps nobody but the extreme Right wing and those hoping to capitalize on the political fallout...all of which is distracting.

-spence

i think it would have shown respect to NYC, a mostly liberal city, that I'm sure holds some resentment to him for not going there the last 2 years and for his wishy-washy view on the mosque and lets not forget his constant banter of "evil" Wall St, which is in NYC and which lost a TON of people on 9/11.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

i think it would have shown respect to NYC, a mostly liberal city, that I'm sure holds some resentment to him for not going there the last 2 years and for his wishy-washy view on the mosque and lets not forget his constant banter of "evil" Wall St, which is in NYC and which lost a TON of people on 9/11.

For a state that has voted for a Democratic President the last 20 years and has (I believe) only 1 Republican Representative in the House, there isn't much to politically gain by going to NYC - only a whole lot to lose with having to directly address the Mosque situation.

There's no precedent for that visit to occur, thus the expectation isn't there. I doubt anyone on the Left holds any resentment because he has not gone to Ground Zero the last 2 years, while those on the Right will try to spin it to use as one more bullet for smearing - hence why this post even exists.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

For a state that has voted for a Democratic President the last 20 years and has (I believe) only 1 Republican Representative in the House, there isn't much to politically gain by going to NYC - only a whole lot to lose with having to directly address the Mosque situation.

There's no precedent for that visit to occur, thus the expectation isn't there. I doubt anyone on the Left holds any resentment because he has not gone to Ground Zero the last 2 years, while those on the Right will try to spin it to use as one more bullet for smearing - hence why this post even exists.

I disagree.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

I disagree.

With what exactly? The way the state has voted the last 20 years, the number of Dem Reps they have or that he has more to lose politically by going there than there is to gain?

[spence]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

i think it would have shown respect to NYC, a mostly liberal city, that I'm sure holds some resentment to him for not going there the last 2 years and for his wishy-washy view on the mosque and lets not forget his constant banter of "evil" Wall St, which is in NYC and which lost a TON of people on 9/11.

I don't think New Yorkers are resentful at all of Obama not showing up. The City has a track record of strong leadership the past decade, they're fine on their own. Besides, they'd probably rather not have the extra traffic.

He should make the trip once during his term, or terms if the GOP can't get their act together.

-spence