Raising Arizona: No MA listed?

[mosholu]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Like I said, it's not politically correct, but profiling sure as hell is more efficient. A cop told me once "if I followed you for 5 minutes, I could come up with half a dozen legal reasons to pull you over." If they want to pull you over, they'll find a reason and be able to support it. That's not even taking into consideration that Boarder Patrol Agents, from what I understand (and I'll have to look it up again) aren't limited by the same probable cause situations as your town cop might be.

Example: New Mexico, AZ or Cali police pose as a small contractor in need of day-labor and drive to the local Home Depot or Lowes. They drive up then corral the multiple people standing outside trying to get a job for the day. The officer asks for their identification to check them for warrants and confirm their immigration status. Chances are pretty damn good (so good that I'd give 5:1 odds to anyone who disagrees) that at least one of them is here illegally.

Just to re-emphasize, I'm not saying profiling is pleasant or even fair, but removing bias and utilizing data to create profiles would be the most efficient method of enforcement.

In addition to checking the multiple people who are standing around why not have the police follow these people to their employers and then the employers could be arrested/fined for violating FAIR because those employers have employed workers and have not checked to see if these people were legal or not. I am all for enforcing immigration laws against those that violate them but it should be applied equally to the workers and those who benefit from using illegal workers.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by mosholu

In addition to checking the multiple people who are standing around why not have the police follow these people to their employers and then the employers could be arrested/fined for violating FAIR because those employers have employed workers and have not checked to see if these people were legal or not. I am all for enforcing immigration laws against those that violate them but it should be applied equally to the workers and those who benefit from using illegal workers.

I couldn't agree more. Ship the illegals home and fine the crap out of the businesses.

[PRBuzz]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I couldn't agree more. Ship the illegals home and fine the crap out of the businesses.

Chipotle Mexican Grill has a lot going for it — an upscale burrito concept, a hip and eco-friendly image, expansion plans galore and a 500 percent-plus stock price gain in just over two years.
And then it has something not going its way — a federal crackdown on its immigrant labor force that has so far forced Chipotle to fire hundreds of allegedly illegal workers in the state of Minnesota, perhaps more than half its staff there.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by PRBuzz

Chipotle Mexican Grill has a lot going for it — an upscale burrito concept, a hip and eco-friendly image, expansion plans galore and a 500 percent-plus stock price gain in just over two years.
And then it has something not going its way — a federal crackdown on its immigrant labor force that has so far forced Chipotle to fire hundreds of allegedly illegal workers in the state of Minnesota, perhaps more than half its staff there.

Wages are the #1 expense for many small businesses. If I could cut my wage expenses in half, resulting in me not having to pay nearly as much in state/fed/insurance/unemployment/disability taxes.... yeah, my profits would be wayyyy up too.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Wages are the #1 expense for many small businesses. If I could cut my wage expenses in half, resulting in me not having to pay nearly as much in state/fed/insurance/unemployment/disability taxes.... yeah, my profits would be wayyyy up too.

Obama just said that if you become more energy efficient as a business and green that you can use the savings to hire more employees regardless if you actually have any work for those employees to perform, it's for the good of the nation...of course, he also forgot that he told us that under his plan the cost of energy will necessarily skyrocket.. sooooo you might possibly break even if you are lucky...but still hire more employees that you don't need because it's for the good of the nation....aaaaand...him....aaaand.....be energy efficient...like him...and eat healthy and don't smoke aaaaaand....whatever

[spence]

Originally Posted by PRBuzz

a federal crackdown on its immigrant labor force that has so far forced Chipotle to fire hundreds of allegedly illegal workers in the state of Minnesota, perhaps more than half its staff there.

Good point, it would seem that the Obama Admin is taking immigration prosecution pretty seriously. There was a report out a few weeks ago on this...

While the punditry is throwing mud, the Feds are making progress.

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Good point, it would seem that the Obama Admin is taking immigration prosecution pretty seriously. There was a report out a few weeks ago on this...

While the punditry is throwing mud, the Feds are making progress.

-spence

BS...and the unemployment rate is 9%