cutting the budget

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

And most conservative dance around this by saying we need cuts w/o a specific plan because they don't want to lose votes, especially among seniors. It;s putrid on both sides.



I just said above, I think both sides like to play this card for politics, thats my opinion on that.

You think all liberals are mentally defective, but a surprising amount of us don't have a problem with some common sense steps. The problem is both sides aren't putting forward seemingly reasonable plans. again, like pensions, we can't start #^&#^&#^&#^&ing with people retired or close to it.

lets start with everyone under 45, raise the SS age by 2 years. or offer more steps where the longer you wait the higher the % you'll receive annually...

Rockhound, have you ever seen a conservative politician or conservative reporter attack a liberal politician for saying that we need to cut entitlements?

If you want to say that conservatives are cowardly for staying away from the issue to avoid being attacked, I agree with you. However, they wouldn't need to be concerned if it weren't for the unfair attacks, and as far as I can tell, on this issue, 100% of the attacks come from the left. 100%. I follow politics closely, and I have never, ever seen a liberal get attacked by a conservative for suggesting entitlement reform.

"a surprising amount of us don't have a problem with some common sense steps"

I have a hard time swallowing that, given who they elect. Harry Reid says that social security is in good financial shape, he gets re-elected. Barney Frank (chairman of the banking committee) says that Fannie and Freddie are great investments, and he gets re-elected.

Which powerful Republicans have been so irrefutably wrong on issues that vital?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Rockhound, have you ever seen a conservative politician or conservative reporter attack a liberal politician for saying that we need to cut entitlements?

If you want to say that conservatives are cowardly for staying away from the issue to avoid being attacked, I agree with you. However, they wouldn't need to be concerned if it weren't for the unfair attacks, and as far as I can tell, on this issue, 100% of the attacks come from the left. 100%. I follow politics closely, and I have never, ever seen a liberal get attacked by a conservative for suggesting entitlement reform.

"a surprising amount of us don't have a problem with some common sense steps"

I have a hard time swallowing that, given who they elect. Harry Reid says that social security is in good financial shape, he gets re-elected. Barney Frank (chairman of the banking committee) says that Fannie and Freddie are great investments, and he gets re-elected.

Which powerful Republicans have been so irrefutably wrong on issues that vital?

you are not allowed to say cowardly, coward, cowardice etc.

like I said, if you are a big government type benefitting from loyal dependents who vote for you or recieve some guaranteed benefits as a rsult of them...these are all excellent programs and investments

[scottw]

seems the people that did not vote for republicans and their budget cut pledge but now want to hold them to their pledge while ignoring the insane spending by the people that the actually voted for who currently mock and impune the republicans for trying to cut spending....they now have the much despised Tea Party to thank for holding the feet of the republicans to the fire and demanding that the 100 Billion promise be met.....I wonder what the budget would look like if the Tea Party and republicans were not involved?

probably go something like this...

Obama proposed courageous, revolutionary, bold, brilliant, genius, pre-Evil Bush Years...2 Trillion Dollar Budget which both reduces spending and increases investments, despite the lunacy the media applauds and hails him as the most brilliant president ever, he's Kennedy and Reagan and soooo much more.....stuff gushing down their legs.....collectively attacking anyone who questions the validity of the numbers as deniers and birthers...


time elaspes...

six months down the road the numbers are "revised" and it is quietly revealed that the buget is actually 4+ Trillion dollars....there were so many pages that noone had read it all...

the media yawns and collectively attacks Sarah Palin about something...

another day in America's decline

[Raven]

when AMERICA's Interests are fellow Americans......

and they're First.... the American Dream First

AMERICA the Country First....

America as a country has Spent or Invested trillians
of dollars into foreign countries problems so we shouldn't
feel a single bit guilty to take care of our OWN.

The corporations haven't been funding the money spent on
Foreign affairs because they are largely not paying the Taxes.

the people are footing the Bill ..... One thing we can learn from
the Egyptian revolution is that collectively we have a voice that
can be heard if we put aside political division.

That "time" is Now.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Raven

when AMERICA's Interests are fellow Americans......

and they're First.... the American Dream First

AMERICA the Country First....

America as a country has Spent or Invested trillians
of dollars into foreign countries problems so we shouldn't
feel a single bit guilty to take care of our OWN.

The corporations haven't been funding the money spent on
Foreign affairs because they are largely not paying the Taxes.

the people are footing the Bill ..... One thing we can learn from
the Egyptian revolution is that collectively we have a voice that
can be heard if we put aside political division.

That "time" is Now.

might want to wait and see how things turn out in Egypt before you decide that's the route to take, I don't think we can determine anything yet exept that MumBarack Obama can hear the voices of protesters halfway across the world but can't hear the protesters when they are right outside his window....

this guy agrees with you...

Ahmadinejad: Egyptian protests herald new Mideast


Feb 11, 7:24 AM (ET)

By ALI AKBAR DAREINI


TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Iran's president said Friday that Egypt's popular uprising shows a new Islamic Middle East is emerging, one that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad claims will have no signs of Israel and U.S. "interference."



if you are a democrat...don't you have to kinda support MuBarack? I'm mean, he's just doing what every democtrat politician does when they get caught cheating, lying, fillandering, stealing, driving on "ambien", not paying taxes, killing women, or just plain ineptitude....etc...they refuse to leave, and their loyalists and wives rally around them no matter how offensive the crime or misdemeanor

[Raven]

Originally Posted by scottw

might want to wait and see how things turn out in Egypt before you decide that's the route to take, I don't think we can determine anything yet exept that MumBarack Obama can hear the voices of protesters halfway across the world but can't hear the protesters when they are right outside his window....

this guy agrees with you...

Ahmadinejad: Egyptian protests herald new Mideast


Feb 11, 7:24 AM (ET)

By ALI AKBAR DAREINI


TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Iran's president said Friday that Egypt's popular uprising shows a new Islamic Middle East is emerging, one that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad claims will have no signs of Israel and U.S. "interference."

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that's funny SHORT STUFF.... MINI Jad
who do you think covered the
happenings when Egypt (Mubarak) closed down the internet

it was companies in AMERICA called Face book and Twitter
that prevented you ALL from a media Black out

(even China squelched all search Inquiries about Egypt via the net)

that short little shorter still DICTATOR can't WIN over
and now they ALL know it...

SAUDI Arabia lying about their oil reserves by 40%
doesn't help the situation, so i do hope the turmoil
continues to bite them all in the A$$ repeatedly.

[justplugit]

The House is introducing the largest non discretionary spending cut in American
history with HR 1 which will cut spending by $100 Billion in the next
7 MONTHS and would eliminate 150 Federal Programs.

Good start, and will also eliminate those large stimulus road signs.
Stimulus musta been good for a few sign companies.