POKING the dragon

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by Saltys

Yea all new taxes and #^&#^&#^&#^& rammed down our throats.

It's better.

Scott, did your federal tax rate increase? Your payroll tax? I can't find information anywhere that says these things have increased on anyone. I know many states have raised rates, but which taxes specifically has Obama raised?

[zimmy]

Very interesting views on both (all?) parties
David Stockman: The U.S. Is In A "Race To The Fiscal Bottom"

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by zimmy

Scott, did your federal tax rate increase? Your payroll tax? I can't find information anywhere that says these things have increased on anyone. I know many states have raised rates, but which taxes specifically has Obama raised?

ugh, as much as it pains me, got to agree with Zimmy. Taxes have not increased under Obama. The deficit has.
here is my 2 cents on our presidents progress

1. Two wars - still fighting them. Most of the progress in Iraq was the result of Bush's work. Obama barely mentions Iraq. Afgan? Whats the plan? update?
2. Guantanamo - still open and no plan on how to close
3. Govt. transparency - do your own web search, both sides agree he as done very little
4. Uniting the country - more divided than ever
5. Economic crisis - TARP was Bush's. O's team administered it
6. Stimulus package - big chunk of $ paid out. So, whats it done? Their website is terrible, cant make any conclusions on success or even where the money is. The biggest idea and most expensive was a tax break, hidden in paychecks that no one knew about. great idea!
7. The worlds view of us - suddenly everyone loved us once O became president. A few months back, barely reported by the media - Napolitano stated the US is more likely to have a terr attack now than immediatley following 911. Think about that! despite all the good will, bowing to leaders and hugs and kisses, we're more likely to have an attack NOW

Although I am biased, follow up on any of what I posted above. Its all spot on. So O delivered on his plan? His promises?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

ugh, as much as it pains me, got to agree with Zimmy. Taxes have not increased under Obama. The deficit has.
here is my 2 cents on our presidents progress

1. Two wars - still fighting them. Most of the progress in Iraq was the result of Bush's work. Obama barely mentions Iraq. Afgan? Whats the plan? update?
2. Guantanamo - still open and no plan on how to close
3. Govt. transparency - do your own web search, both sides agree he as done very little
4. Uniting the country - more divided than ever
5. Economic crisis - TARP was Bush's. O's team administered it
6. Stimulus package - big chunk of $ paid out. So, whats it done? Their website is terrible, cant make any conclusions on success or even where the money is. The biggest idea and most expensive was a tax break, hidden in paychecks that no one knew about. great idea!
7. The worlds view of us - suddenly everyone loved us once O became president. A few months back, barely reported by the media - Napolitano stated the US is more likely to have a terr attack now than immediatley following 911. Think about that! despite all the good will, bowing to leaders and hugs and kisses, we're more likely to have an attack NOW

Although I am biased, follow up on any of what I posted above. Its all spot on. So O delivered on his plan? His promises?

there's this...
too bad the house switched huh?

ABC News Obama's Budget: Almost $1 Trillion in New Taxes Over Next 10 yrs, Starting 2011
February 26, 2009 12:00 PM

President Obama's budget proposes $989 billion in new taxes over the course of the next 10 years, starting fiscal year 2011, most of which are tax increases on individuals.

[Raven]

as was Reagen's is PURE charisma
But he ain't no Reagen

He isn't delusional he's diabolical
he is simply using primarily the power of persuasion

combined with the power of Suggestion
in a very Skillful way .... that's a given

His Ability to get things accomplished
has backFIRED tremendously

his people are already abandoning ship!

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Raven

his people are already abandoning ship!

and worse...

Clinton announced that she’s done with Obama after 2012 — even if he wins again.

“Obviously, she’s not happy with dealing with a president who can’t decide if today is Tuesday or Wednesday, who can’t make his mind up,” a Clinton insider told The Daily. “She’s exhausted, tired.”

He went on, “If you take a look at what’s on her plate as compared with what’s on the plates of previous Secretary of States — there’s more going on now at this particular moment, and it’s like playing sports with a bunch of amateurs. And she doesn’t have any power. She’s trying to do what she can to keep things from imploding.”

Clinton is said to be especially peeved with the president’s waffling over how to encourage the kinds of Arab uprisings that have recently toppled regimes in Egypt and Tunisia, and in particular his refusal to back a no-fly zone over Libya.

In the past week, former President Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton’s former top adviser Anne Marie-Slaughter lashed out at Obama for the same reason.

The tension has even spilled over into her dealings with European diplomats, with whom she met early this week.

When French president Nicolas Sarkozy urged her to press the White House to take more aggressive action in Libya, Clinton repeatedly replied only, “There are difficulties,” according to Foreign Policy magazine.

“Frankly we are just completely puzzled,” one of the diplomats told Foreign Policy magazine. “We are wondering if this is a priority for the United States.”

Or as the insider described Obama’s foreign policy shop: “It’s amateur night.”

[UserRemoved1]

No employees no payroll tax. I don't know what has increased RIGHT NOW because I haven't sat down with the acct yet.

There's been new liquor taxes, new cigarette taxes, LESS state aid (causing higher state and local taxes), new telecommunication taxes, ALL since ya buddy barry took office.

If your going to tell me that obamacare isn't a tax increase or the fact they that HAVE raised the deficit which will need to be paid with new taxes........

JUST BE PATIENT.

Originally Posted by zimmy

Scott, did your federal tax rate increase? Your payroll tax? I can't find information anywhere that says these things have increased on anyone. I know many states have raised rates, but which taxes specifically has Obama raised?

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

No employees no payroll tax. I don't know what has increased RIGHT NOW because I haven't sat down with the acct yet.


JUST BE PATIENT.

I was just checking Scott . Your taxes are very likely lower now then under the last regime. There will certainly be tax increases in the future since the liquid part of the budget can't be reduced enough to slow the debt. However, at the moment he has not raised taxes. We already pay for Obamacare anyway when some uninsured person heads to the ER for a runny nose. Alot of stuff needs to be fixed, but the tax issue right now is more perception than anything.

[UserRemoved1]

You must have missed this paragraph so I'll cut and paste again

There's been new liquor taxes, new cigarette taxes, LESS state aid (causing higher state and local taxes), new telecommunication taxes, ALL since ya buddy barry took office.

Like I said BE PATIENT

Originally Posted by zimmy

I was just checking Scott . Your taxes are very likely lower now then under the last regime. There will certainly be tax increases in the future since the liquid part of the budget can't be reduced enough to slow the debt. However, at the moment he has not raised taxes. We already pay for Obamacare anyway when some uninsured person heads to the ER for a runny nose. Alot of stuff needs to be fixed, but the tax issue right now is more perception than anything.

[Raven]

you forgot a WAR

the FAILED drug WAR of 60 years

it's a BUSINESS for PROFIT
for the Prison country with more
inmates than any country on EARTH

we the tax payers are paying for it
over a Trillion dollars spent already
and drug use is UP and UP and UP

TAX the drugs

[spence]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

You must have missed this paragraph so I'll cut and paste again

There's been new liquor taxes, new cigarette taxes, LESS state aid (causing higher state and local taxes), new telecommunication taxes, ALL since ya buddy barry took office.

Like I said BE PATIENT

I thought there was no liquor tax in MA any more?

-spence