Why aren't we drilling for oil?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by zimmy

You know that gas in Norway is double the cost in the US, right?

Zimmy, they can afford it. Everyone in Norway is rich, because of the oil. If I had an oil well in my backyard, i wouldn't care what the price of gas was.

Norway is the only western-lite socialism country that works. And it works there for 2 reasons. First, they have more oil than they know what to do with, and the take advantage of that.

Second, they don't allow any menaingful immigration, and the immigrants that are allowed to come in, must show they can take care of themselves.

So I love it when liberals say we should be more like Norway, because I tell them I agree, because that wouod mean drilling for oil and claimping down on immigration we can't afford. At that point, the liberal either changes the topic or calls me a racist...Either way, I know I've won...

[JohnR]

Remember we didn't drill in Alaska 10 years ago because it was hurtful and take 10 years to reap any meaningful reward?

10 Years ago. 10 years for production. 10 years. Hmmm.

We need investment in clean energy. We need to be leading scientifically on solar, wind, nuke, bio-fuels (algae is so beautiful).

Clean energy COULD be the next tech sector, or biomedical / life sciences boom, with the USA again leading instead of following. While simultaneously developing SAFELY our existing fuel sources.

Off topic, I hear there is an Atlas Shrugged movie coming out.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Remember we didn't drill in Alaska 10 years ago because it was hurtful and take 10 years to reap any meaningful reward?

10 Years ago. 10 years for production. 10 years. Hmmm.

We need investment in clean energy. We need to be leading scientifically on solar, wind, nuke, bio-fuels (algae is so beautiful).

Clean energy COULD be the next tech sector, or biomedical / life sciences boom, with the USA again leading instead of following. While simultaneously developing SAFELY our existing fuel sources.

Off topic, I hear there is an Atlas Shrugged movie coming out.

Of course you are correct, we need to lead the way on alternatives, and those alternative sources you list are the future. But those alternatives are nowhere near being ready to replace fossil fuels, so why sit on a winning Powerball ticket? We desperately need the money, let's cash it in.

It's no coincidence that our #1 economic concern (oil) and the number 1 national security concern (middle east) are so intertwined. Let's get our own oil, and then we have no reason to stick our necks out (my neck in particular) everytime a new sociopath steps up over there.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Zimmy, they can afford it. Everyone in Norway is rich, because of the oil. If I had an oil well in my backyard, i wouldn't care what the price of gas was.

Norway is the only western-lite socialism country that works. And it works there for 2 reasons. First, they have more oil than they know what to do with, and the take advantage of that.

Second, they don't allow any menaingful immigration, and the immigrants that are allowed to come in, must show they can take care of themselves.

So I love it when liberals say we should be more like Norway, because I tell them I agree, because that wouod mean drilling for oil and claimping down on immigration we can't afford. At that point, the liberal either changes the topic or calls me a racist...Either way, I know I've won...

Average income in Norway is 36,000 usd. The top tax bracket is 48%. Gas is taxed heavily to keep people from driving. What else do you like about Norway? Yeah, they drill alot of oil... It is a bastion of liberalism. Jim, I think you may be a liberal at heart. Actually, maybe more of a socialist.

[zimmy]

I couldn't let this go, because like so much I read on here, reality is so different than truth. Jim in CT says everyone in Norway is rich so they can afford $10/gallon for gas. Norway per capita income is $36,000. Per capita in US is $39,626. So looks like we are wealthier, no? Maybe $11 per gallon is reasonable here since we are rich and can afford it.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by zimmy

I couldn't let this go, because like so much I read on here, reality is so different than truth. Jim in CT says everyone in Norway is rich so they can afford $10/gallon for gas. Norway per capita income is $36,000. Per capita in US is $39,626. So looks like we are wealthier, no? Maybe $11 per gallon is reasonable here since we are rich and can afford it.

I see you said it again.

Zimmy showed (twice) that average pay in Norway is higher than in the US, so I guess I was wrong when I said Norway is wealthier than the US, right Zimmy? So I guess you got me, right?

Ummm, not even close. Zimmy, there is more to a nation's economic health than average paycheck. For example, in the case of Norway, if you don't have to worry about the costs of healthcare, education, or retirement, than you can do a whole lot more with a smaller paycheck. If I didn't need to pay for healthcare, retirement, or college for my kids, I could afford $25 a gallon and be far wealthier than I am today. Still with me?

Check out this link, shows standard of living by nation.

http://able2know.org/topic/55762-1

Norway is #1. That means the best. That means they are wealthier than everyone else, including us. So either (1) you just proved that study to be flawed, or (2) your little "fact" falls way short of telling the whole story. Norway has the highest standard of living in the world, and their entire economy is based on oil. We have lots of oil, but the Democrats want to just let it sit there, so that we can be enslaved and impoverished by Middle eastern nations run by fanatical sociopaths. Those Middle Eastern nations take our huge sums of money, and they do awesome things with it, such as fund terrorists and finding new ways to treat their women even more barbarically (I have spent time there, I saw things you would not imagine). I'm sorry if that fact makes Democrats look, well, stupid, but it's still a fact, so please don't take that out on me.

You want to ask me a question, awesome. You want to make me out to be an ignoramus or an idiot, that's harder, because I think before I decide what my opinions are.