No CUPCAKES!!!

[Sea Dangles]

Social development is not a job for teachers.If they have to waste their time with such matters we are doomed.Although I have been asked to bring in cupcakes for my childrens birthdays before,I reluctantly did so to keep the peace.You have to figure it's 20-30 minutes after cleanup,of wasted time for teachers and students alike just so Sally can have a party in her honor.Rent a bowling alley or go to laser zone if you feel obliged to do so. Then you will know how the teacher feels about this nonsense.We have done it all and will continue to do so,magicians,puppeteers,jumpy houses,pool parties.....just invite the class to your home and feel the LOVE!

Jeez Jimmy,how would you react to a legitimate problem?How many times does a kid take a plane to the eye before you decide it's probably a bad idea?I sympathize with the educators that have to pacify parents who have their own ideas about enhancing their childs educational experience.

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Social development is not a job for teachers.If they have to waste their time with such matters we are doomed.

SD, I'm curious as to what you think an elementary school teacher's job is? Is it strictly teaching the subjects like math, reading, history, etc...? My sister taught for several years in one of the worst school systems in Washington DC. She had 4th graders that didn't have table manners or understand that cutting a line is wrong. She worked with them on those things because they needed the help.

I agree that it's not a teachers job to teach how a student should act in society, but the social aspect of school is important. That's where kids develop a lot of these skills that are (or at least should be) taught at home.

[FishermanTim]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

...how would you react to a legitimate problem?How many times does a kid take a plane to the eye before you decide it's probably a bad idea?......

If you get hit with a "paper dart" your reflexes aren't sharp enough.

You know things have gone seriously downhill when the school and teachers eliminate/restrict the activity of the students, and then complain that the kids are getting overweight from lack of activity and crappy school lunches (which probably are past expiration dates).
No more running, no tag, no ball throwing, no kickball, no dodgeball, no activity except sitting and eating sub-par lucnhes between classes.

Once we let schools dictate students' total health and well being, and the parents silently gave up the right to parent, this is the kind of mindless crap we are dealt. Instead of dealing with scraped knees and bruises we are dealing with childhood obesity, diabetes, ADHD, ADD and a cornecopia of "new" food allergies.
We are on a path of self-destruction, and our children are leading the way!

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by FishermanTim

Once we let schools dictate students' total health and well being, and the parents silently gave up the right to parent, this is the kind of mindless crap we are dealt. Instead of dealing with scraped knees and bruises we are dealing with childhood obesity, diabetes, ADHD, ADD and a cornecopia of "new" food allergies.
We are on a path of self-destruction, and our children are leading the way!

Agree 100%, well said

[Sea Dangles]

No offense meant Jimmy, but you border on extremism with your fantasy laden outlook.
I refuse to agree with you just to make you feel you are right.Send your kids to CO and let them ride with ballon man and eat cupcakes with the different folks.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

No offense meant Jimmy, but you border on extremism with your fantasy laden outlook.
I refuse to agree with you just to make you feel you are right.Send your kids to CO and let them ride with ballon man and eat cupcakes with the different folks.

Exremeism? my fantasy outlook is to let kids do what with the always did. Im not looking to make little Joey feel special, Im looking to get the school know it alls to let kids be kids. If the school proposed stopping birthday celebrations because it was disctracting the class, I would applaud them. But thats not what they are doing. they are saying you cant use food to celebrate anymore. So we're punishing the skinny kids for only one reason - fat kids. If you agree with that, fine. But its BS in my book.
I dont need you to agree with me, my letter has generated a ton of feedback from like minded parents including a school nurse who also agrees with me. If its extreme to let kids be kids then I'm gulity. Maybe you need society to raise your kids, but I dont. I know whats healthy and whats not.
I'd rather have my kids have skinned elbows and bruised knees than never knowing the feeling of running.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Social development is not a job for teachers.If they have to waste their time with such matters we are doomed.Although I have been asked to bring in cupcakes for my childrens birthdays before,I reluctantly did so to keep the peace.You have to figure it's 20-30 minutes after cleanup,of wasted time for teachers and students alike just so Sally can have a party in her honor.Rent a bowling alley or go to laser zone if you feel obliged to do so. Then you will know how the teacher feels about this nonsense.We have done it all and will continue to do so,magicians,puppeteers,jumpy houses,pool parties.....just invite the class to your home and feel the LOVE!

Jeez Jimmy,how would you react to a legitimate problem?How many times does a kid take a plane to the eye before you decide it's probably a bad idea?I sympathize with the educators that have to pacify parents who have their own ideas about enhancing their childs educational experience.

I used to value your opinion but now I can figure out if your dense or just like to argue. For yours and Redsox info - cupcakes for b-days are eaten at snack time, which the kids have every singe day. The kid who is celebrating their bday hands them out. The kids then clean up after themselves. Zero impact on the teacher, zero impact on valuable class time. Zero long term impact on their waistlines. So there goes 99% of your argument.

Dangles, cupcake banning is just one more example of liberal wackery. So if Joe Handsome gets all the chicks and Johnny Ugly cant get a date for the prom, should we ban proms? Where does it end? Should we only have lean and trim teachers in the classroom? Wouldnt fat ones set a bad example? So we ban paper airplanes for the 1 in 1,000,000,000.26 chance a kid can get hit in the eye.....how many future engineers, pilots, scientists may not be fascinated by flight ? I know i was as a kid. I want my kids to dream big, explore, take chances and if they suck down too many cupcakes they can learn the consequences and take action to get back in shape. I guess you look up to the people that tell you what to do, I look up to those that create their own paths. We keep boxing these kids into some world created by average citizens - teachers, adminstrators, boards who never traveled and lived 10 mins away from where they've grown up.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Dangles, cupcake banning is just one more example of liberal wackery. .

Amen! It does every single kid some good to have a little celebration for his/her birthday...every kid should know that the anniversary of the day they were born is a great reason to have a treat...the notion that a 10-minute snack is detrimental to the education of a 7 year-old would be hysterical if it was a hypothetical discussion...it's sad that people buy into it.

That whole mental disorder thing...