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[RIJIMMY]

[QUOTE=PaulS;864140 Unfort., many people grow up unable to break that cycle, .[/QUOTE]

Unable? why? I say unwilling. Big, big difference. So you believe governemtn should step in and provide, govt should break the cycle? Throw more $$$ at the problem. ITS NOT WORKING!!!!



and zimmy, hmmm evidendce of a lack of self reliance....

- Obamacare
- Mortgage bailouts (not one human was forced at gunpoint to sign their mortgage)
- Wall Street bailouts
- GM bailouts
- see my "banned cupcake" thread
- theres a sign with 300 lines of text at the escalator in the train stations for "escalator safety"

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Unable? why? I say unwilling. Big, big difference. So you believe governemtn should step in and provide, govt should break the cycle? Throw more $$$ at the problem. ITS NOT WORKING!!!!



and zimmy, hmmm evidendce of a lack of self reliance....

- Obamacare
- Mortgage bailouts (not one human was forced at gunpoint to sign their mortgage)
- Wall Street bailouts
- GM bailouts
- see my "banned cupcake" thread
- theres a sign with 300 lines of text at the escalator in the train stations for "escalator safety"

Thanks for posting the above, Jimmy. I was just going to add him to my ignore list because his comment was so ridiculous, but decided I might miss out on some really crazy, moonbat sh1t that he posts in here.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by fishbones

Thanks for posting the above, Jimmy. I was just going to add him to my ignore list because his comment was so ridiculous, but decided I might miss out on some really crazy, moonbat sh1t that he posts in here.

Sounds like you just can't understand normal thinking

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Unable? why? I say unwilling. Big, big difference. So you believe governemtn should step in and provide, govt should break the cycle? Throw more $$$ at the problem. ITS NOT WORKING!!!!

So you don't think someone growing up in Greenwich Ct. won't have more advantages that someone growing up in So. Boston?

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by PaulS

So you don't think someone growing up in Greenwich Ct. won't have more advantages that someone growing up in So. Boston?

of course, but so? So you think we should level the playing field? The bulk of my career has been in Boston and there are many guys I know who brag of coming from Southie and are extremely successful.

The govt owes these people nothing, its not their role. The government should enforce equal opportunity and those in the slums and in the best areas have equal opportunity. There are countless success stories.

Theres no need for us to debate, we'll never agree. Im tired of the constant assault on my wages while I have to fund every single things I do and will every pay for by myself. When I did my taxes I was sick to my stomach for days, it was a disgrace and all I ever hear is more, more, more (in my John Fogarty singing voice).

The government made a law that rich people who make money and have an extreme gain on an investment are required, by law, to make a charitable donation to the healthcare of others at the threat of imprisonment and fines is something out founding fathers would have spit at. Its a shame and a sham.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Unable? why? I say unwilling. Big, big difference. So you believe governemtn should step in and provide, govt should break the cycle? Throw more $$$ at the problem. ITS NOT WORKING!!!!



and zimmy, hmmm evidendce of a lack of self reliance....

- Obamacare
- Mortgage bailouts (not one human was forced at gunpoint to sign their mortgage)
- Wall Street bailouts
- GM bailouts
- see my "banned cupcake" thread
- theres a sign with 300 lines of text at the escalator in the train stations for "escalator safety"

Wall street bailout cost less than half of the savings and loan bailout in the 80's under reagan.

Gm bailout saved an enormous amount of jobs and tax payer money in the long term.

Obamacare is projected to save money in the long term

Kids parents should decide if they can have cupcakes

Again, reality is very different than what the Palinites state. Firing guns and ringing bells to warn the British

[spence]

Originally Posted by zimmy

Wall street bailout cost less than half of the savings and loan bailout in the 80's under reagan.

From what I've read we were about 18-24 hours from not being able to take money out of ATM's. Once Lehman blew up the entire system started to shut down. I certainly thought the Paulson plan was really reckless after the fact, but the more is revealed you realize how desperate they really were.

Gm bailout saved an enormous amount of jobs and tax payer money in the long term.

Like 2 million jobs and a lot of small to mid size businesses. The automotive supply chain is enormous.

Obamacare is projected to save money in the long term

While it lays some foundation it doesn't really solve the problems.

Kids parents should decide if they can have cupcakes

Perhaps if they made good decisions we wouldn't have so many people growing up with medical problems and adding to the cost of health care. While some of these stories are pretty silly, the only way to change the behavior of a large group is by forced modeling. It's why Apple doesn't support Flash on the iPad

-spence