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08-06-2011, 05:23 PM
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Surfcaster
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 834
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Originally Posted by Mike P
F&S appears to have talked to the guy personally (and probably paid for the rights to an "exclusive"), whereas OTW got their info yesterday from a CT beat writer who talked to other "credible sources" who may not have been all that credible. So, I put more stock in today's F&S article......
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That beat writer interviewed Greg before F&S and didn't have to pay for it:
Story and Photos: Potential World Record Striper
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08-06-2011, 05:29 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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I officially couldn't care less if its legit or not....and why do people get their panties in a bunch??? Envy???? Good for him on a great catch for cryin' out loud! That is all.
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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08-06-2011, 05:50 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
Posts: 17,125
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I did not see the fish in person and not sure if you did Ken or any of your friends, so all we have is witness accounts and photos I guess. I don't see anything bulging out of the belly or any suspicion of stuffing 20 to 30 pounds of whatever(baitfish,rocks,crabs,lead,ice etc.).
How do you know he has not or is going to open it up? Does he really have to anyway?
Glad I did not catch it, holy crap
Best thing I can say is go out and catch one bigger
"Does anybody feel like Pete Vican is being cheated here?"
Why would he be cheated? Didn't he catch one hell of a fish himself? I'm glad for him.
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08-06-2011, 06:10 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot
"Does anybody feel like Pete Vican is being cheated here?"
Why would he be cheated? Didn't he catch one hell of a fish himself? I'm glad for him.
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Agree with Slip. Why would Peter Vican feel cheated?
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08-06-2011, 06:17 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
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Questions regarding the image of the bass measuring at 51"
I took the image from F&S, enlarged it (correctly, resampling 110% several times) and to me, it appears as though the tape measure is not flat on the ground but lifted up a bit where held. That, coupled with the bottom left location where the snapshot was taken, would make the "51 inches" getting tossed around shorter than the actual length due to the perspective of the shot.
I'm 20 something years past my higher-math prime (pun?) so I don't have the mental capacity to crunch without disastrous effect, but I can and did simulate my theory scaled down a bit and confirm - good enough for me - that the fish is longer than 51"s.
Someone smarter than me please confirm this - or debunk it  - mathematically...
Re-sized image:
http://www.striped-bass.com/images/w...4-enlarged.jpg
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Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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08-06-2011, 06:25 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Union,NJ
Posts: 989
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
Questions regarding the image of the bass measuring at 51"
I took the image from F&S, enlarged it (correctly, resampling 110% several times) and to me, it appears as though the tape measure is not flat on the ground but lifted up a bit where held. That, coupled with the bottom left location where the snapshot was taken, would make the "51 inches" getting tossed around shorter than the actual length due to the perspective of the shot.
I'm 20 something years past my higher-math prime (pun?) so I don't have the mental capacity to crunch without disastrous effect, but I can and did simulate my theory scaled down a bit and confirm - good enough for me - that the fish is longer than 51"s.
Someone smarter than me please confirm this - or debunk it  - mathematically...
Re-sized image:
http://www.striped-bass.com/images/w...4-enlarged.jpg
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You see the 2" in front of head? I mean common... Who would take a pic like this? would you?? Be honest John! The fish was never rewieghed on a certified scale! There is a reason 80 % of the people on some of the other forum polls think its BS!!!
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08-06-2011, 06:32 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,158
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CowHunter
You see the 2" in front of head? I mean common... Who would take a pic like this? would you?? Be honest John! The fish was never rewieghed on a certified scale! There is a reason 80 % of the people on some of the other forum polls think its BS!!!
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I gotta run down for dinner, then I'll probably hit the Canal for awhile. I'll try to give you a call tomorrow, or at least I'll leave you my cell number on your voice mail if you're out on the water. I really don't want to get involved in this, but I'm a sucker for behind the scenes intrigue. 
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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08-06-2011, 06:48 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CowHunter
You see the 2" in front of head? I mean common... Who would take a pic like this? would you?? Be honest John! The fish was never rewieghed on a certified scale! There is a reason 80 % of the people on some of the other forum polls think its BS!!!
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Angle - I am being honest. That photo does not represent 51 inches for me, or anything less than 51 inches. Using that photo as the claim for 51 inches doesn't wash with me. I have not seen anything concrete to debunk that this is not what it is claimed to be.
I see a lot of people trying to debunk it but I have not seen enough to to convince me this is not legit.
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08-06-2011, 06:59 PM
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Permanently Disconnected
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 12,647
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Sorry John I don't buy it. That tape isn't bent. It's straight out. And laid under his dorsal fin. That fish measures less than 50" in that picture.
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
Questions regarding the image of the bass measuring at 51"
I took the image from F&S, enlarged it (correctly, resampling 110% several times) and to me, it appears as though the tape measure is not flat on the ground but lifted up a bit where held. That, coupled with the bottom left location where the snapshot was taken, would make the "51 inches" getting tossed around shorter than the actual length due to the perspective of the shot.
I'm 20 something years past my higher-math prime (pun?) so I don't have the mental capacity to crunch without disastrous effect, but I can and did simulate my theory scaled down a bit and confirm - good enough for me - that the fish is longer than 51"s.
Someone smarter than me please confirm this - or debunk it  - mathematically...
Re-sized image:
http://www.striped-bass.com/images/w...4-enlarged.jpg
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08-06-2011, 07:03 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
Sorry John I don't buy it. That tape isn't bent. It's straight out. And laid under his dorsal fin. That fish measures less than 50" in that picture.
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Tape is not flat on the ground. The zero is, the hand is not. It is below the dorsal in front and several inches above the tail.
More reading: Story and Photos: Potential World Record Striper
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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08-06-2011, 07:13 PM
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Hardcore Equipment Tester
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Abington, MA
Posts: 6,234
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
Sorry John I don't buy it. That tape isn't bent. It's straight out. And laid under his dorsal fin. That fish measures less than 50" in that picture.
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No way that tape in the picture is flat to the ground. It was shot either as he was putting it down or lifting it up.
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Bent Rods and Screaming Reels!
Spot NAZI
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08-06-2011, 06:10 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,158
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot
"Does anybody feel like Pete Vican is being cheated here?"
Why would he be cheated? Didn't he catch one hell of a fish himself? I'm glad for him.
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Looking at the leader board, if Peter could put up a fish of around 66 pounds, he could still take the Angler of the Year award. If he could do that, all he'd be "cheated" out of would be a free replica mount. I'm sure he's already sent his 77.40 out if he wanted a mount.
Guy's caught two fish over 75 the last two seasons, so another 66 isn't all that far-fetched.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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08-06-2011, 06:18 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: On my boat
Posts: 9,703
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike P
Looking at the leader board, if Peter could put up a fish of around 66 pounds, he could still take the Angler of the Year award. If he could do that, all he'd be "cheated" out of would be a free replica mount. I'm sure he's already sent his 77.40 out if he wanted a mount.
Guy's caught two fish over 75 the last two seasons, so another 66 isn't all that far-fetched.
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Is that what "angler of the year " gets you, a free replica mount ?
WOW !

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LETS GO BRANDON
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08-06-2011, 06:22 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Union,NJ
Posts: 989
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Well lets see if he gets it certified IGFA world record, I bet not!
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08-06-2011, 06:30 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie
Is that what "angler of the year " gets you, a free replica mount ?
WOW !

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No, it gets a bunch of tackle prizes and maybe some other stuff. Redlite would be able to tell you exactly what--he's won the shore side of it twice, too. I think the surf guy gets a Van Staal among other stuff. The free mount is of the biggest boat and shore bass weighed in. Sometimes, that person isn't the Angler of the Year.
The mounts aren't really that expensive. The company that does them had a booth last year and I think they were around $400 as a "show special".
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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08-06-2011, 06:03 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: On my boat
Posts: 9,703
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
I officially couldn't care less if its legit or not....and why do people get their panties in a bunch??? Envy???? Good for him on a great catch for cryin' out loud! That is all.
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"Envy????"
Penis envy !
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LETS GO BRANDON
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08-06-2011, 06:25 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,158
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kierran
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Sorry, man. Whoever does their web page and Facebook updates did you a real dis-service yesterday. That's where this nonsense about a "panic attack" based on reports of "credible sources" started.
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