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ahh my proof? easy one my friend. I assume you mean proof that the libs will be leading an uprising?
here you go, enjoy.....
so tell me....look like conservatives to you???
lets compare that to those tea party terrorists......
so, am I speculating, yes. BUT, I like the odds and will stick to my original statement. it will be libs uprising, just like in europe, just like the RNC. maybe not you or other hardworking, law abiding libs, but it will be the "takers", the students, those with nothing to lose. the rest of us will wake up and go to work
so, am I speculating, yes. BUT, I like the odds and will stick to my original statement. it will be libs uprising, just like in europe, just like the RNC. maybe not you or other hardworking, law abiding libs, but it will be the "takers", the students, those with nothing to lose. the rest of us will wake up and go to work
I think the uprising will be newly retired Republicans who feel they've paid into entitlement programs their entire lives and deserve the benefits they feel they own.
[QUOTE=spence;880385]I think the uprising will be newly retired Republicans who feel they've paid into entitlement programs their entire lives and deserve the benefits they feel they own.
That's a key point of the issue though...most people who work pay into SS and Medicare, and the middle class pays a much higher overall % of their income into these programs.
That's a key point of the issue though...most people who work pay into SS and Medicare, and the middle class pays a much higher overall % of their income into these programs.
-spence
Should be no problem with SS being it's stored in a "locked box".
And at our current rates, what we are doing as a nation is not sustainable.
GenX is now becoming of age where they (we'll) be taking more of the reigns. Can we fix things? How do we fix things? We're supposed to be the generation that breaks the mold on race, allowing for more tolerance, but can we do it? We're supposed to be the generation that fixes education but that doesn't look to be taking root.
Where a lot of Boomers have gotten us to where we are now, can the current awaking generation do a better job? Can many of the faults be hoisted on the boomers? Not that laying blame will fix any problems.
I do weep for my country.
Perhaps as a hypothetical exercise, we come up with a way to fix the USA's ills ?
If the hypothetical fracture comes along - I can likely be reached in TX or North Carolina.
Oh, RIJimmy, I forgot to mention, the libs can't lead the uprising. They have no guns, no military. While they certainly are the most capable for protesting and shouting hell no we won't go, they are by far the least likely to know or have taken any federally recognized oath to the Constitution and made a personal mission in life to defend it.
I would guess as a percentage, people on the left/progressive bend are more likely to have protested the Pledge of Allegiance somewhere along the line.
And at our current rates, what we are doing as a nation is not sustainable.
GenX is now becoming of age where they (we'll) be taking more of the reigns. Can we fix things? How do we fix things? We're supposed to be the generation that breaks the mold on race, allowing for more tolerance, but can we do it? We're supposed to be the generation that fixes education but that doesn't look to be taking root.
Where a lot of Boomers have gotten us to where we are now, can the current awaking generation do a better job? Can many of the faults be hoisted on the boomers? Not that laying blame will fix any problems.
I do weep for my country.
Perhaps as a hypothetical exercise, we come up with a way to fix the USA's ills ?
If the hypothetical fracture comes along - I can likely be reached in TX or North Carolina.
John, the fix was made after the first division/separation/Revolution. It was a superb document which was formed by the lessons of history, and the evolution of law from biblical times through to Roman Law and through trials of Western Civilization to the Magna Charta and the ensuing voluminous case history of the English Court system. It was devised at a point in time when men were, through that revolution, free and far from tyrannical power, a kind of historical moment that rarely exists. It was, in that rare circumstance, necessary to create a system of governance that would allow division but not allow factions to deprive individual liberty. The Framers were in a relatively "pristine" mode of thought concerning how to create and maintain such a system. Though many had different opinions and selfish personal or sectarian motives, they understood that all must be accomodated within the system. There was, in the final creation, no room for a government that allowed factional divisiveness to dominate individual liberty. The Constitution they created allowed for that liberty to flourish, as in no other known society, for a hundred years. Those Founders knew that it was a fragile system that would probably decay--even Madison predicted it would last a century.
The decay, of course, is not an organic decomposition of the parchment, but a corrosion of political and judicial fidelity to the words on that parchment as written and intended. And just as that infidelity has been intentional by progressive leaders and jurists, so can fidelity intentionally be restored. There is no need for a break-up or partitioning of this country. That original Constitution superbly allows for individuals and communities with differing ideas to stay united. It was tried successfully. But the departure from it has led to ideas of separation, and to a fiscal mess fostered by a domineering, unconstitutionally operating Federal Government.
I know that most of us are pessimistic that we can revert to correct, Constitutional government, many even believe it is not good to do so. But the fix is there, in our hands, if, as a people, we understood that. If not, there will be the constant bitching about how to fix it, and wonks will tweak at the present corrupt edges, and drift further from the fix, and, who knows . . . ?
John, the fix was made after the first division/separation/Revolution. It was a superb document which was formed by the lessons of history, and the evolution of law from biblical times through to Roman Law and through trials of Western Civilization to the Magna Charta and the ensuing voluminous case history of the English Court system. It was devised at a point in time when men were, through that revolution, free and far from tyrannical power, a kind of historical moment that rarely exists. It was, in that rare circumstance, necessary to create a system of governance that would allow division but not allow factions to deprive individual liberty. The Framers were in a relatively "pristine" mode of thought concerning how to create and maintain such a system.
Great summation,Detbuch.
These were men of a deep spiritual faith who knew first hand what tyranny was
and had the intelligence to know history and look back and see what
needed to be done to live under liberty.
It all came together as the most perfect govenment document the world has ever known.
To look at it as a "living, breathing" document is bunk.
Living by it's original intent will bring a "perfect union".
What's lacking now, imho, is the Patriotism that brings us together as Americans.
The great leaders were able to bring out the best of us as Americans and made us
feel proud of who we were, even though we are imperfect.
Geez, the violence in those terrorist tea party demonstration tapes
was atrocious. Did you see the disrespect showed to the police
when they were asked to quiet down. Terrorists for sure.
There are a lot of towns sharing services in our area, but so far it's been
garbage collection, and regionalization of schools. We may be forced to
do more regionly due to the future economy.
But there would be a big protest by the opposition of what would be called" the people of home rule."
They will be smeared too.
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Hybrid Mode
