We're Just Different People

[buckman]

Originally Posted by ecduzitgood

I tend to go to extremes and can say first hand if you work too hard or too well you get shunned. No body wants someone around who makes them look bad, so guys like me end up getting the shaft. Knowing someone gets your foot in doors not open to others and is a major factor in my eyes. Luck is also involved, although people who have it don't recognize it. Being in the right place at the right time or being born into the right family are what I would consider luck.

I also know of what you speak first hand. That's why I work non-union now. Union's create lazy, entitled workers.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by buckman

. Union's create lazy, entitled workers.

I don't think it creates them....I think it enables them. There are a lot of union workers who do put in a solid days work for a solid days pay....but if someone is a Lazy POS by nature...they seem to thrive in a union environment....where in the private sector they wouldn't last very long.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

I don't think it creates them....I think it enables them. There are a lot of union workers who do put in a solid days work for a solid days pay....but if someone is a Lazy POS by nature...they seem to thrive in a union environment....where in the private sector they wouldn't last very long.

Point well made.
However, hardworkers can be forced to slow down so as not to make others look bad. That would not stand in the private sector...not in this economy

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by buckman

Point well made.
However, hardworkers can be forced to slow down so as not to make others look bad. That would not stand in the private sector...not in this economy

I am pretty mixed on the union / non-union thing but I have been personally told by some union members I worked with ( I was not union) to slow down as I was making them look bad. I was too ambitious.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by JohnR

I am pretty mixed on the union / non-union thing but I have been personally told by some union members I worked with ( I was not union) to slow down as I was making them look bad. I was too ambitious.

See, I when I worked for GE I was a member of IBEW....the majority of us came to work and worked....we did everything we were supposed too, Honest day's work for Honest Day's pay....but out of the 20-something of us in the shop there were 2 that were worthless POS's....Boss couldn't get rid of them, that's where the Unions are the problem...at least from my experience.

I'm seeing the same thing in the government.....9 of us in my code....8 working....1 worthless POS.....He'll never get tossed.

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

I am pretty mixed on the union / non-union thing but I have been personally told by some union members I worked with ( I was not union) to slow down as I was making them look bad. I was too ambitious.

You'll get this in the private sector as well, although it's usually not as obvious. I've been told by many people the reason some don't want to pass me the ball is because they're afraid I'll run all the way down the field

-spence