Santorum declares war against heavy metal

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

really? the govt was less overbearing in the 40s, 50s, and 60s?
lets see, how about..

1. The draft
2. Higher tax rates
3. Segregation
4. McCarthy-ism
5. Rampant censorship
6. Testing of biological weapons on civilains and military
7. The war on drugs
8. FBI on John Lennon, Louie, Louie, etc

Granted the govt is still sticking too much of its nose in my business (see my cupcake rant) but I think I have more freedom now that I ever did.

Add water and air quality, food safety, work place safety, home ownership rates, money for non-necessities, etc. I wasn't around in the old days, but my very conservative 95 y.o. grandfather's opinion on this topic is that we don't realize how good we have it today and anyone who says life overall things were better 50, 60 years ago is patently incorrect ( he used different descriptors)

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by zimmy

Add water and air quality, food safety, work place safety, home ownership rates, money for non-necessities, etc. I wasn't around in the old days, but my very conservative 95 y.o. grandfather's opinion on this topic is that we don't realize how good we have it today and anyone who says life overall things were better 50, 60 years ago is patently incorrect ( he used different descriptors)

Water quality was excellent, used to drink out of the fishing streams 25 miles
from NY City. Food was fresh ,grown locally, except for rotenone there
were few if any other pesticides. I do agree we have better work place safety.
Too bad you weren't around we could of had a great time with Clammer.
Ask him.

Your Grand Dad grew up, in the depression and those were tough times. But
I would assume when he talks about "how good we have it today" he is speaking
of the material and creature comforts we have compared to then.

In any event I won't recant my original posts speaking about people being use to
living with an overbareing government in a nanny state nor the fact that
values and morals dropped to the degree to bring unbelivable laws and
regulations to live by.

[spence]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Water quality was excellent, used to drink out of the fishing streams 25 miles from NY City. Food was fresh ,grown locally, except for rotenone there
were few if any other pesticides.

But issues like water quality are directly related to industrial growth and government regulation.

Industry will sometimes do what's required by law and rarely nothing more.

You can't calculate the benefits of an economy built on consumerism without factoring in the side effects.

-spence

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

But issues like water quality are directly related to industrial growth and government regulation.

Industry will sometimes do what's required by law and rarely nothing more.

You can't calculate the benefits of an economy built on consumerism without factoring in the side effects.

-spence

Agree Spence, but shouldn't you be taking your wife out for Valentines Day
about now.

Also the rise in population hasn't helped.