Mass Striper decline numbers from NOAA

[thefishingfreak]

Who are we suposed to believe? NOAA or the ASMFC and the DMF?
Click here and look up bass.
Atlantic States Marine Fisheries Commission


Acording to the ASMFC the stock is well above the Target biomass.
Acording to the head of the DMF, paul didoti the stock is above its target biomass and the DMF was even proposing increasing the comercial quota.
Acording to the Head of the DMF AND the ASMFC the biomass of commercial size fish is at an all time high, there was a bumper crop of young produced in 2010 that "should", pending survival, start yearly migrations. They admit there are not allot of "schoolies" around because there was a low survival rate for that year class. That is why there are no massive blitzes of schoolies tearing up and down the coast. Remember all those schoolies from a few years ago? Well there all commercial size now and there hanging just out of reach of the seals. Somewhat a nuisance to the Tuna fishermen often hard to get away from.
So just because surf fishing sucks and there not stacked up in all the usual spots doesn't mean they are on the verge of another collapse.
Im not jumping on the stop commercial fishing bandwagen based on NOAA's stock assessment. Or poor surf reports.
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[Tagger]

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

Who are we suposed to believe? NOAA or the ASMFC and the DMF?
Click here and look up bass.
Atlantic States Marine Fisheries Commission


Acording to the ASMFC the stock is well above the Target biomass.
Acording to the head of the DMF, paul didoti the stock is above its target biomass and the DMF was even proposing increasing the comercial quota.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

Yea ,,,and everything was Honky Dory the last time the species collapsed,, when his predecessor Phil Coates was running the show . Instead of owning that they screwed up, they blamed pollution for the sudden collapse .. I was there ,, I use to go to those BS meetings ,, They like to say Bio Mass .. They say it so much you get dizzy .. Hi Mike ;-)

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

Who are we suposed to believe? NOAA or the ASMFC and the DMF?
Click here and look up bass.
Atlantic States Marine Fisheries Commission


Acording to the ASMFC the stock is well above the Target biomass.
Acording to the head of the DMF, paul didoti the stock is above its target biomass and the DMF was even proposing increasing the comercial quota.
Acording to the Head of the DMF AND the ASMFC the biomass of commercial size fish is at an all time high, there was a bumper crop of young produced in 2010 that "should", pending survival, start yearly migrations. They admit there are not allot of "schoolies" around because there was a low survival rate for that year class. That is why there are no massive blitzes of schoolies tearing up and down the coast. Remember all those schoolies from a few years ago? Well there all commercial size now and there hanging just out of reach of the seals. Somewhat a nuisance to the Tuna fishermen often hard to get away from.
So just because surf fishing sucks and there not stacked up in all the usual spots doesn't mean they are on the verge of another collapse.
Im not jumping on the stop commercial fishing bandwagen based on NOAA's stock assessment. Or poor surf reports.
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I don,t believe any of them, but I do believe the people who are out fishing all year whether from shore or boat.
I see less fish than just a few years ago.

I,m sure it,s very complex the reasons for all this, bottom line is we need to act now, not sit back and let it collapse.
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[MAKAI]

It's like spending your retirement now, though you haven't contributed anything into it for the last six years.

A common human axiom is " Well, I didn't see that coming "

Do you know the difference between an optimist and a pessimist ?
The pessimist is better informed !

[MikeToole]

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

Who are we suposed to believe? NOAA or the ASMFC and the DMF?
Click here and look up bass.
Atlantic States Marine Fisheries Commission
Acording to the Head of the DMF AND the ASMFC the biomass of commercial size fish is at an all time high, there was a bumper crop of young produced in 2010 that "should", pending survival, start yearly migrations. They admit there are not allot of "schoolies" around because there was a low survival rate for that year class. That is why there are no massive blitzes of schoolies tearing up and down the coast. [/i][/size]

I guess the head of ASMFC isn't reading his own stock assessments because they show a big decrease since 2004 based on the 2011 report.

"Abundance and Biomass: Striped bass total abundance and biomass were estimated using the SCA model (Figures 7 and 8; Tables 11 and 12). Abundance increased steadily from 8.3 million fish in 1982 to a
peak of 67.5 million in 2004 then declined to 42.3 million fish in 2010. Abundance of striped bass age 8 and greater, representing approximately fish 28” and greater, was lowest in 1985 but then increased to a series high in 2004. Abundance of age 8+ fish decreased from 9.7 million fish in 2004 to 5.9 million fish
in 2010. Total biomass followed a similar pattern increasing from a low in 1984 to a peak of 111,877 mt in 2002. Biomass since 2002 has declined to 87,771 mt in 2010"