new cruelty via CCNS

[2na]

just got my sticker and was informed that the powers that be have decreed that the back trail to Race Point, Hatches Harbor and the Race will all be closed until late June. They site plovers, but this is really about terns - terns are the new plovers ~

The rangers aren't sure yet exactly what is going on (remember, the rangers don't implement policy, just enforce it - so don't blame them) because this just came down yesterday afternoon. All the bigwigs drove around the beach then issued a vague press release:


Cape Cod National Seashore Superintendent George Price announced that there will be changes to the use of the Off Road Vehicle (ORV) Corridor as a result of a recent evaluation of suitable habitat for piping plovers. The immediate effect will be the closure of vehicle access to Hatches Harbor during the piping plover courtship and nesting period.Recent on-site consultations with officials of the United States Fish and Wildlife Service resulted in changes to the management of habitat in the Hatches Harbor area. Additional areas of the sandy spit of Hatches Harbor will be symbolically fenced in April, limiting vehicle access. Fencing and ORV access will be re-assessed as the season progresses, although changes are unlikely before the end of June. Piping plovers are listed as threatened under the Federal and Massachusetts Endangered Species Acts. This decision is consistent with both the 1996 Atlantic Coast Piping Plover Recovery Plan guidelines and the 1998 Negotiated Rule for Off-Road Vehicle Use within Cape Cod National Seashore.

'Additional areas of the sandy spit of Hatches Harbor will be symbolically fenced in' - I love the term 'symbolically fenced in'.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

[OLD GOAT]

I find it amazing that the word PARK is left out when referring to the Cape cod National Seashore --PARK--.
as I understand it parks are for people and wildlife areas are for wildlife. Being old enough to have attended town meeting before the park was formed I can remember the greatest concern was that people that have been using the area could continue using it in the same manner.
As someone with little time left I feel I should set the record strait about the formation of the park.
I don't want you to think that I hate wildlife ,but rather I feel that all can use the beach at the same time
If seashore birds are in that much danger then I suggest that the birds be raised in that nice fish and wildlife building in Roselin ,Va. were all the folks hang out wasting taxpayer money.
I make that statement after babysitting in the apartment building next door and viewing through the window a manpower waist

[BigFish]

Hopefully the fox population has grown by leaps and bounds and will take care of the afformentioned problem with great haste! Bon Appetite' young foxes!!! If not.....steamroll them to dust for all I care!!! WGAS about these birds....REALLY!!!!!

[JohnR]

Inch by inch, yard by yard, trail by trail.

UFB

[Piscator]

"Occupy Wall Street"

Why not "Occupy CCNS Park"?

[Raven]

Originally Posted by OLD GOAT

I find it amazing that the word PARK is left out when referring to the Cape cod National Seashore --PARK--.
as I understand it parks are for people and wildlife areas are for wildlife. Being old enough to have attended town meeting before the park was formed I can remember the greatest concern was that people that have been using the area could continue using it in the same manner.

OLD GOAT? Any chance that the MINUTES of that Original meeting are on file somewhere?

[JohnnyD]

Can't fish from shore and soon only the ultra-rich will be able to afford fuel to fish by boat.

I like the explicit inclusion of "This decision is consistent with both the 1996 Atlantic Coast Piping Plover Recovery Plan guidelines and the 1998 Negotiated Rule for Off-Road Vehicle Use within Cape Cod National Seashore. " Just because they say it, doesn't mean it's true.

[MAKAI]

Wonder how much nationwide revenue has been lost over the years due to non access of "our" shoreline? I'm sure the money could have been put to good use.
Too bad most of this Neo green propaganda gets spoon fed to our kids by the socialist doctrine of "our " schools.
We do go meekly into the future, sad.
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[Typhoon]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Can't fish from shore and soon only the ultra-rich will be able to afford fuel to fish by boat.

I like the explicit inclusion of "This decision is consistent with both the 1996 Atlantic Coast Piping Plover Recovery Plan guidelines and the 1998 Negotiated Rule for Off-Road Vehicle Use within Cape Cod National Seashore. " Just because they say it, doesn't mean it's true.

We've already made the decision that we won't be doing the run very often to the Golf balls for tuna this year.

Green Harbor to Golf Balls is a $350 day for me.

[Raven]

Originally Posted by MAKAI

Too bad most of this Neo green propaganda gets spoon fed to our kids by the socialist doctrine of our schools.

Even though i like all things Birds .... when Audubon society spam mail comes to my house it gets filed right where it belongs


right in the trash

[FishermanTim]

Isn't it sadly amusing that when the tourism propaganda touts things like "Come visit our scenic National Seashore" they fail to mention HOW the hell they are supposed to get there if all the access is closed due to birds that are doomed to extinction (if their breeding habits are any indication).

It's like advertising a brand new restaurant but using bad directions that don't go anywhere near the place!

Maybe bring down a bus load of feral cats and set them free to live unfetted by human control....OOPS, did they just eat a plover????
Sorry!

Once again the powers that be have followed that same old sad example of "better PC safe than sorry". They would no sooner close every beach along the eastern seashore than allow one stupid freaking plover nest be disturbed by the breeze caused by a passing vehicle!

"Occupy CCNS" has a nice ring to it, but unfortunately all it would take would be one person to say "Their blitzing" and they would all be gone!


One last thing.... Remember that they are closing the roads...why?
Because some bird is too stupid to nest in the undisturbed fields and dunes where they are SUPPOSED to. If a bird or ANY OTHER ANIMAL is stupid enough to dart out in front of or nest in front of a moving vehicle, that animal has proofed that it doesn't know how to survive in the wild. We only have ONR route, and a bird has the power to close it down. AMAZINGLY idiotic!

OK, I'm done ranting, it's back to work......

[BigFish]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Can't fish from shore and soon only the ultra-rich will be able to afford fuel to fish by boat.

I like the explicit inclusion of "This decision is consistent with both the 1996 Atlantic Coast Piping Plover Recovery Plan guidelines and the 1998 Negotiated Rule for Off-Road Vehicle Use within Cape Cod National Seashore. " Just because they say it, doesn't mean it's true.

Buy a kayak and hob-nob with the elite and beautiful people!!!!

[Rappin Mikey]

WTF! I guess Herring Cove is going to a be zoo all Summer. Not like I wanna go there anyway. You know they won't even open it up until Mid August anyway.

[RickBomba]

Buy a boat #^&#^&#^&#^&y...buy a boat #^&#^&#^&#^&y...buy a boat #^&#^&#^&#^&y.

Oooh, Mikey, I just heard a Nacho Libre shout out on Mecum Auto Auctions.

[Karl F]

Originally Posted by OLD GOAT

I find it amazing that the word PARK is left out when referring to the Cape cod National Seashore --PARK--.
as I understand it parks are for people and wildlife areas are for wildlife. Being old enough to have attended town meeting before the park was formed I can remember the greatest concern was that people that have been using the area could continue using it in the same manner.
As someone with little time left I feel I should set the record strait about the formation of the park.
I don't want you to think that I hate wildlife ,but rather I feel that all can use the beach at the same time
If seashore birds are in that much danger then I suggest that the birds be raised in that nice fish and wildlife building in Roselin ,Va. were all the folks hang out wasting taxpayer money.
I make that statement after babysitting in the apartment building next door and viewing through the window a manpower waist

Promised over and over, all historic use by people, fishing, hunting, gathering of beach plums and rose hips, walking, swimming, not to be changed... OK.. sure.. the boids and MA audubomb changed all that chit.. when they led Mrs. Tasha away in cuffs for doing something she always did, was the canary in the coal mine...

Originally Posted by 2na

just got my sticker and was informed that the powers that be have decreed that the back trail to Race Point, Hatches Harbor and the Race will all be closed until late June. They site plovers, but this is really about terns - terns are the new plovers ~

The rangers aren't sure yet exactly what is going on (remember, the rangers don't implement policy, just enforce it - so don't blame them) because this just came down yesterday afternoon. All the bigwigs drove around the beach then issued a vague press release:


Cape Cod National Seashore Superintendent George Price announced that there will be changes to the use of the Off Road Vehicle (ORV) Corridor as a result of a recent evaluation of suitable habitat for piping plovers. The immediate effect will be the closure of vehicle access to Hatches Harbor during the piping plover courtship and nesting period.Recent on-site consultations with officials of the United States Fish and Wildlife Service resulted in changes to the management of habitat in the Hatches Harbor area. Additional areas of the sandy spit of Hatches Harbor will be symbolically fenced in April, limiting vehicle access. Fencing and ORV access will be re-assessed as the season progresses, although changes are unlikely before the end of June. Piping plovers are listed as threatened under the Federal and Massachusetts Endangered Species Acts. This decision is consistent with both the 1996 Atlantic Coast Piping Plover Recovery Plan guidelines and the 1998 Negotiated Rule for Off-Road Vehicle Use within Cape Cod National Seashore.

'Additional areas of the sandy spit of Hatches Harbor will be symbolically fenced in' - I love the term 'symbolically fenced in'.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

George Price.. well.. can't say it in writing..but you know what I mean
yes the fencing is very symbolic..because most of the time, there is NOTHING, inside the fence.. the birders version of the shell game..and the head Bureaucrat Puppet, follows along very well

truth be told..we are all "Symbolically Fenced OUT"


also, truth be told.. it's only gonna get worse....Old goat, and 2na.. look at what has been taken away, and what's left.. they already have over 90 %.... what, is truly left, and for what small amount of time are we allowed to even see it?

National PARK?.. try National Bird Sanctuary.. it will be renamed...

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by Rappin Mikey

WTF! I guess Herring Cove is going to a be zoo all Summer. Not like I wanna go there anyway. You know they won't even open it up until Mid August anyway.

Not sure if you've been down there recently, but this past weekend we saw that half of the right-side lot is closed due to a large portion of the parking lot that has eroded away. I doubt they'll get that fixed in time.

[Jackbass]

Originally Posted by BigFish

Hopefully the fox population has grown by leaps and bounds and will take care of the afformentioned problem with great haste! Bon Appetite' young foxes!!! If not.....steamroll them to dust for all I care!!! WGAS about these birds....REALLY!!!!!

If the fox or coyote population grows to the point where the birds are threatened the parks people will make sure the predatory species is "managed" accordingly. They do it down south at OBX. They will do it here as well. Just playing god
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[piemma]

" they already have over 90 %.... what, is truly left, and for what small amount of time are we allowed to even see it?"

I use to run "The Back" 2 nights a weekend every weekend from mid-June to Sept. 600 miles of driving and it was worth it as the Bass fishing was world class.

Stopped in 03. Lack of beach to run, mung, seals and a ton of people crammed into what was left of the best beach ORV area in the world made the decision easy.

So here's the way I figure it; Gas + or - $100 every weekend in 03 prices. Food $50. Eels $25.00 Misc $25.00. Total $200.

About 14 weekend plus a week vacation: around $3,000.00 total every year. So these fools are saving the plovers and terns and costing the Mass economy $3K per guy who doesn't go anymore. All that money now goes into the boat, slip, fuel, toys, eels, etc in RI with a lot less wear and tear on my body and the truck.

[afterhours]

Originally Posted by RickBomba

Buy a boat #^&#^&#^&#^&y...buy a boat #^&#^&#^&#^&y...buy a boat #^&#^&#^&#^&y.

Oooh, Mikey, I just heard a Nacho Libre shout out on Mecum Auto Auctions.

love the not so subliminal to your dad

[Slipknot]

"symbolic"


I'd like to symbolically fence George Price in there and see how he likes it

WTF

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by Karl F

Promised over and over, all historic use by people, fishing, hunting, gathering of beach plums and rose hips, walking, swimming, not to be changed... OK.. sure.. the boids and MA audubomb changed all that chit.. when they led Mrs. Tasha away in cuffs for doing something she always did, was the canary in the coal mine...


George Price.. well.. can't say it in writing..but you know what I mean
yes the fencing is very symbolic..because most of the time, there is NOTHING, inside the fence.. the birders version of the shell game..and the head Bureaucrat Puppet, follows along very well

truth be told..we are all "Symbolically Fenced OUT"


also, truth be told.. it's only gonna get worse....Old goat, and 2na.. look at what has been taken away, and what's left.. they already have over 90 %.... what, is truly left, and for what small amount of time are we allowed to even see it?

National PARK?.. try National Bird Sanctuary.. it will be renamed...

it sucks they have all kinds of money to fund their rediculous fight,
But if that is so about the historic use not to be changed, I think it's high time somehow this crap gets challenged. I'm not rich or smart but why can't we get a judge to see this the way it was written and see this bull crap symbloic fencing is just a ploy

[Rappin Mikey]

Bruce you are pretty dam good looking. That makes up for the poor, stupid stuff!

[Swimmer]

I think rangers like watching tiny birds fool around. Or so it seems.