What are the odds that this will pass?

[FishermanTim]

The highway driving fee, or automobile usage tax, or whatever they end up calling this assinine scam!
Imagine that on top of paying an excise tax, a sales tax and an annual registration tax on your vehicle, and a gas tax you may be forced to pay 1 cent a mile to drive in this pisshole state!!!
This new Democratic fee scam is "supposed" to help fund the Green Line extension (the new Big Dig screwjob) but we all know if they get this to pass it will just end up in someone's pockets or some whacko wet-dream project on some politician's posh summer home.

Bottom line is that the wonderful state of mAssachusetts is looking to make us the laughing stock of the country. More so than we are now. Heck, all we need is to be the first state to enact Obama's assinine immigration plan, and we should beat out California as the most screwed up place to live in the USA!

[buckman]

Originally Posted by FishermanTim

The highway driving fee, or automobile usage tax, or whatever they end up calling this assinine scam!
Imagine that on top of paying an excise tax, a sales tax and an annual registration tax on your vehicle, and a gas tax you may be forced to pay 1 cent a mile to drive in this pisshole state!!!
This new Democratic fee scam is "supposed" to help fund the Green Line extension (the new Big Dig screwjob) but we all know if they get this to pass it will just end up in someone's pockets or some whacko wet-dream project on some politician's posh summer home.

Bottom line is that the wonderful state of mAssachusetts is looking to make us the laughing stock of the country. More so than we are now. Heck, all we need is to be the first state to enact Obama's assinine immigration plan, and we should beat out California as the most screwed up place to live in the USA!

My old Ford f350 has 350K on it....that would be $3500 more stolen.

The scary part will be how they keep track of where, how far and when you drive.
Had enough yet???

[Redsoxticket]

Yearly inspections report the mileage to the registry. Your insurance company has already has access to this data and so may the tax collector.
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[buckman]

Originally Posted by Redsoxticket

Yearly inspections report the mileage to the registry. Your insurance company has already has access to this data and so may the tax collector.
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What about the miles put on in other states. We are going to have to hire more gov workers to sort this out.

[Redsoxticket]

You haven't heard of the odometer that has 50 memory locations used to store the mileage of each state.
There will be a gps that triggers the mileage counter as you enter that specific state. Afterwards the yearly inspection will determine the miles for each state. There will be a tax rate for miles driven in each state that will be billed to you.
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[striperman36]

I have to start looking at ways to turn back the odometer

[likwid]

Originally Posted by striperman36

I have to start looking at ways to turn back the odometer

Easily detected.

[Raven]

not if it isn't your car

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by striperman36

I have to start looking at ways to turn back the odometer

Interestingly enough, the gauges on the Misses car are screwed up. After driving for 5-10 minutes, the speedometer stops working and the odometer freezes.

Anyway, this is Uncle Scams way of combating rising fuel economy standards. There have been grumblings about the feds requiring a GPS to be installed in every vehicle that tracks mileage (yeah I'm sure that's all it tracks) and is then read by a scanner at gas stations. You pay for your fuel *plus* your mileage surcharge. It's going to happen eventually, and when it does, we'll see even more blatant, illegal intrusion into our Right to Privacy.

[basswipe]

If you think Mass is effed up move to RI and then maybe I might have some sympathy for your plight.

We here in RI by far have easily the most stupid human being to ever live be elected to the seat of Governor(or for that matter anything electable).This is a man who so far has done zero other than try to fight for the life of some scumbag who killed a man in broad daylight,scattering his brains all over a sidewalk outside a Woonsocket bank.Oh and he wants it called a Holiday Tree and he wants to tax EVERYTHING.And as a working man don't even let me get into bridge tolling.

Cry me a river.Spend a year or two here in RI and you'll be screaming to move back to Mass.

[OLD GOAT]

This might be the reason all the electric cars have been taken off the road. NO GAS TAX

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by basswipe

Cry me a river.Spend a year or two here in RI and you'll be screaming to move back to Mass.

Just because RI is a trash heap doesn't mean we in MA can't complain about the ever-increasing taxes and regulations this state pushes through. Also, anyone who moves to RI should have their head checked. If you hate it so much, move.

[Piscator]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Interestingly enough, the gauges on the Misses car are screwed up. After driving for 5-10 minutes, the speedometer stops working and the odometer freezes.

Anyway, this is Uncle Scams way of combating rising fuel economy standards. There have been grumblings about the feds requiring a GPS to be installed in every vehicle that tracks mileage (yeah I'm sure that's all it tracks) and is then read by a scanner at gas stations. You pay for your fuel *plus* your mileage surcharge. It's going to happen eventually, and when it does, we'll see even more blatant, illegal intrusion into our Right to Privacy.

What happens when I put fuel in my boat at that same gas station?
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

If you hate it so much, move.

Same can be said about MA...or any state you live in.

We have a great Interstate Highway system in this country....if people hate the state they live in they can always use it to leave....

[basswipe]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Just because RI is a trash heap doesn't mean we in MA can't complain about the ever-increasing taxes and regulations this state pushes through. Also, anyone who moves to RI should have their head checked. If you hate it so much, move.

Holy crap Johnny was that really called for?Did I ever say you could not complain?

If I could afford to move I would but I'm all growed-up with a mortgage,a family and all the bills that go with it.Would you move with 7 more years on your mortgage?

Think before you speak kid.

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by basswipe

If you think Mass is effed up move to RI and then maybe I might have some sympathy for your plight.

We here in RI by far have easily the most stupid human being to ever live be elected to the seat of Governor(or for that matter anything electable).This is a man who so far has done zero other than try to fight for the life of some scumbag who killed a man in broad daylight,scattering his brains all over a sidewalk outside a Woonsocket bank.Oh and he wants it called a Holiday Tree and he wants to tax EVERYTHING.And as a working man don't even let me get into bridge tolling.

Cry me a river.Spend a year or two here in RI and you'll be screaming to move back to Mass.

don't forget the use tax and NOW the new bridge WILL have a toll

[Pete_G]

Originally Posted by striperman36

don't forget the use tax and NOW the new bridge WILL have a toll

I keep hearing grumblings about tolls coming back on Mt. Hope Bridge too. Then we'll really be living on an Island...

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by basswipe

Holy crap Johnny was that really called for?Did I ever say you could not complain?

If I could afford to move I would but I'm all growed-up with a mortgage,a family and all the bills that go with it.Would you move with 7 more years on your mortgage?

Think before you speak kid.

Cry me a river old man.

[basswipe]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Cry me a river old man.

Exactly the response I thought I would get.

Youth knows everything and then one day you get some responsibility and before you know you're 40+ and you then realize you didn't know jack squat in your youth.

Wait until you have a kid and you'll really get it,or even more so take on someone else's kid!Then you buy a house and then have 30yrs of mortgage bills.College for the kid...can't forget that!All that and the stupid bills like red garbage bags and a hundred other taxes that workers/homeowners have to deal with.

Johnny and I mean this very seriously...until you actually have some real world experience stop giving advice and opinions on subjects you have ZERO experience with.But that will never happen because I keep forgetting you already know everything and have life figured out already.

Forgot a responsibility,how about taking care of those sick and dying parents?That'll a real treat for you but I'm sure you already know what to do.

I'll cry you no river.I lived it and my crying has already been done.

[Raven]

you have achieved wisdom when
you realize you know nothing at all.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by basswipe

Exactly the response I thought I would get.

Youth knows everything and then one day you get some responsibility and before you know you're 40+ and you then realize you didn't know jack squat in your youth.

Wait until you have a kid and you'll really get it,or even more so take on someone else's kid!Then you buy a house and then have 30yrs of mortgage bills.College for the kid...can't forget that!All that and the stupid bills like red garbage bags and a hundred other taxes that workers/homeowners have to deal with.

Johnny and I mean this very seriously...until you actually have some real world experience stop giving advice and opinions on subjects you have ZERO experience with.But that will never happen because I keep forgetting you already know everything and have life figured out already.

Forgot a responsibility,how about taking care of those sick and dying parents?That'll a real treat for you but I'm sure you already know what to do.

I'll cry you no river.I lived it and my crying has already been done.

You talk like you have any clue about me and my life.

meh...

I certainly don't have it all figured out and learn more and more every day. I make mistakes every single day and will continue to do so until they put me in the ground. However, someone that thinks that their entitled and automatically correct just because they're a bit older certainly isn't the person for anyone to learn it from.

I'm not the only one that could demonstrate a bit more humility and to be knocked down a rung or two. I may not be as "old and wise" as you are, but I sure am glad that I'm not half as pissy.

[Fishpart]

Back on Subject...

I believe the Masterminds in the Peoples Republic of MA proposed it and it will somehow get slipped in in the Democratic Republic of Rhode Island as a test case for the rest of the New England. That is if they can ram it down our throats as an environment saver when in reality it is another way to confiscate the fruits of the hard work we do.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

It's going to happen eventually, and when it does, we'll see even more blatant, illegal intrusion into our Right to Privacy.

You're that guy that yells fire then cries freedom of speech aren't you?

[Raven]

it'll be nationwide soon because the Cartels have eliminated the middlemen along the southwestern borders...for more profit

and are now personally driving huge loads of kilos of cocaine to all USA cities.

Some of the buyers are making millions per week. With that kind of "scratch" they can purchase any HEAVY weaponry they feel like.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by likwid

You're that guy that yells fire then cries freedom of speech aren't you?

Nope. I'm the guy that doesn't like big brother putting GPS tracking on my car and being able to conduct warrant-less surveillance on my every move.

No one has the freedom to incite panic by yelling fire in a crowded room.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Nope. I'm the guy that doesn't like big brother putting GPS tracking on my car and being able to conduct warrant-less surveillance on my every move.

Big brother is who said you could drive in the first place.

He also says how fast you can drive, what roads you can drive on, and that your car needs to meet certain safety standards too.

Where's the outcry?

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by likwid

Big brother is who said you could drive in the first place.

He also says how fast you can drive, what roads you can drive on, and that your car needs to meet certain safety standards too.

Where's the outcry?

Apples to oranges. All of those examples are just as inapplicable as your last one.

Reasonable people understand that Constitutional freedom isn't defined by doing whatever the hell you want without regard to the cost on others - such as driving 100MPH through a school zone.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Apples to oranges. All of those examples are just as inapplicable as your last one.

Reasonable people understand that Constitutional freedom isn't defined by doing whatever the hell you want without regard to the cost on others - such as driving 100MPH through a school zone.

Where are cars in the constitution again? I can't seem to find that section.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by likwid

Where are cars in the constitution again? I can't seem to find that section.

The 9th Amendment, 3rd and 4th and 5th in the Bill of Rights are relevent to this discussion.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by buckman

The 9th Amendment, 3rd and 4th and 5th in the Bill of Rights are relevent to this discussion.

I suppose you can make a 10" bass legal right?