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[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Its not my side - I've voted R many, many times in the past. funny, many of my liberal friends and customers says this...but they can never name any

So at what point is ok to discuss family and how far can you go? How about Amy Carter and Chelsea Clinton?

Paul...way off on a tangent again...once again...noone made jokes about or ridiculed the Obama children or "mocked their looks", their names were not used, their pictures or likenesses were not used and their appearance or intellect was not commented upon...what was pointed out was the obvious "elitist hypocricy" of their father on this issue...now do you want to argue that he's "not" an arrogant elitist hypocrit? because that's what the ad alleges, there's nothing derrogatory directed at the kids themselves as you've seemed to wander off in search of, I'm pretty sure that most parents are very happy that his kids enjoy that type of protection at their school and wonder why the president dismisses the notion of security in schools for other parents and their kid's safety and peace of mind ....or do you want to keep throwing up phony irrelevant issues? I'd be happy, by the way, to produce a lengthy list of examples where Obama and his various Spokes Poodles have shamelessly used/cited their children and other people's children in political debates to garner emotional reactions and political leverage that were far more direct and egregious than this

what appears to be 'off-limits" is the president's arrogance and hypocricy...buuuuut...we already knew that.....it has a very cultish feel to it

[Sea Dangles]

Had to laugh as I read the story about more gun enthusiasts displaying exactly why more regulation needs to be applied to the industry. Three different gun shows and five people injured....talk about shooting yourself in the foot.Most of these gun advocates are bozos who will give the government no choice but to step in and tell them what's good for them.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Had to laugh as I read the story about more gun enthusiasts displaying exactly why more regulation needs to be applied to the industry. Three different gun shows and five people injured....talk about shooting yourself in the foot.Most of these gun advocates are bozos who will give the government no choice but to step in and tell them what's good for them.

huh?...wonder why the federal government hasn't "stepped in" to Chicago then.... or yet? people are actually dying there routinely....

2 shot to death in separate attacks on South, West sides
January 19, 2013|By Peter Nickeas and Liam Ford | Tribune reporters

About 9:15 p.m., a man was shot to death inside a Popeye's Louisiana Kitchen, 5500 W. North Ave. (Peter Nickeas/Tribune)Two young men were shot to death during another night of gun violence in Chicago Friday: One inside a well-lit restaurant along a West Side thoroughfare, the other in a dark gangway on a South Side block populated by vacant brick buildings.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by scottw

huh?...wonder why the federal government hasn't "stepped in" to Chicago then.... or yet? people are actually dying there routinely....

The key, as you clarify, is the FEDERAL Government. We have been so conditioned by the transformation of government in our country that people routinely refer to THE government, and by that they seem to automatically mean the Federal Government. And I don't think most even consider federalism with its separation of sovereign entities when they say THE government. Only when local issues or state issues are presented as such do most pay attention to differences. But, for a great segment of our population, THE government, particularly, the President, is the repository of power to fix all of our problems. When an accident occurs at a gun show in state X, and it is reported in the national media, the hue and cry is not that state X should "solve" the problem, but that THE Government has to do something.

[scottw]

I don't know...I'm counting on the president to surround himself with a bunch of gang bangers on a stage and read some letters that they wrote and sign a bunch of executive orders to fix the problem if he can save even one life...it's worth trying....after all, it's his hometown....