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Old 03-12-2013, 01:44 PM   #24
Jim in CT
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Originally Posted by spence View Post
Multiple issues here...

1) The Feds already have the ability to use deadly force as a means of last resort and this is precisely the scenario Holder referenced.

2) That the Feds don't have armed drones today doesn't mean they won't have them soon. Especially considering the explosion of drone activity we're going to encounter in a few years the FBI will have to have additional capabilities to counter potential drone based security threats.

With the increasing trend towards outside contracting drone support it would be easy to transfer liability to another organization...or...the FBI may already have them actually and we just don't know about it.

That the Administration's response put so many qualifications on the use of domestic drones makes the filibuster all the more absurd. We should start making up all sorts of hypothetical situations and demand concrete answers...

This is a long way from Obama ordering a Hellfire into the corner Starbucks to eliminate Karl Rove.

-spence
Spence, do you ever, and I mean ever, look at things objectively?

to your #1...yes, the FBI and municipal SWAT teams have snipers. Those snipers can only use lethal force when faced with immediate lethal harm. These drone attacks can kill an unarmed guy (albeit a terrorist) reading a book in a field, who is no imminent threat to anyone. These drones can't be used in hostage situations when a terrorist is holding a gun to the head of an innocent person.

to your #2, that's pure, wild speculation on your part...

I'm curious, Spence, as to why it's so wrong to waterboard a terrorist who is not a US citizen, but it's acceptable to kill an American citizen on American soil.

As someone here posted...we actually have a President who thinks it's OK to kill an American citizen on US soil without due process, and at the same time, wants to give civilian trials (with all the rights therein) to foreign Al Queda terroists. So according to Obama, the constitution may apply to foreign-born Al Queda terrorists, but not to actual US citizens on US soil.

That's as perverse as it gets, and it's precisely what I'd expect from a 1960's Chicago radical who supports infanticide and goes to that deranged whackjob's church for 20 years. Somehow, we elected this idiotic, constitution-trampling, fascist twice, and therefore we deserve everything he's going to do to us. Unfortunately, Obama's policies will have a lasting painful legacy that will extend to our kids...
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