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BigFish · 03-19-2007, 04:14 PM

Chris, Slingah and I were commenting on Patricks perfect radio voice and how he should get on the radio somewhere.......then we could turn him off at will!

He does have a great "on air" voice!

Slingah · 03-19-2007, 04:30 PM

Basic Patrick = the next James Earle Jones

TheSpecialist · 03-19-2007, 06:01 PM

I wonder if the Krafts will have some stipulations added to the show once their mega mall with a BassPro is finally open??

BasicPatrick · 03-19-2007, 04:29 PM

Hmmmmmm....I hear Jay Baver is leaving OTW to go back to the mountains and his family. Maybe there is an opportunity here....lol

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Originally Posted by Flaptail

Chris we know it and we appreciate it believe me, no one can ever say anything bad about you and your people in my presence, I know how hard you worked and continue to work at it. Hats off to you all at MSBA.

One thing though, if Parick ever realizes he has a talent for doing the public announcements and visits Hollywood, your screwed! He could be that guy you here on the previews on DVD's!!!!!

JohnR · 03-19-2007, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BasicPatrick

Hmmmmmm....I hear Jay Baver is leaving OTW to go back to the mountains and his family. Maybe there is an opportunity here....lol

Patrick - notice they said RADIO and not TV

BigFish · 03-19-2007, 07:16 PM

Yeah Patrick....radio voice does not translate to TV face!!

The Dad Fisherman · 03-19-2007, 09:44 PM

Video Killed the Radio Star......just look what MTV did to Joe Jackson

BasicPatrick · 03-19-2007, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Video Killed the Radio Star......just look what MTV did to Joe Jackson

Now that is some funny chit right there...see you Memorial Day weekend my friend.

NIB · 03-20-2007, 04:54 AM

I have a big problem with the mass show..
It's too damn far..
Guy's spending 2-3 hundy on fishing equipment complaining about food prices are funny.
Patrick could play some guy getting snuffed in a Scorsesse film.
It would have to be the big screen..

daceman63 · 03-20-2007, 07:02 AM

I thought the show was great. I don't look at it like my $15.00 doesn't buy me anything. It's a show......a show usually means it has an entertainment value. And that's exactly how I view it. And with 11 vendors not being able to make it I thought it was still a great show.

As far as food and beer prices go what can you do. The boat show the food was outragously priced as was the beer. But American Legions and VFWs and gun clubs alike raise the beer/liquor prices for hall events. It happens.

But I don't go to the boat show or the fishing shows to eat or drink. If I can get a burger and a beer at the event it's all the better.

I met a few people from here and from the MSBA and had a great time. I also met some of the guys on here who have business which gives me new places to acquire my equipment.

My friends and I look forward to the show every year. We never leave empty handed.

Great Event and Great Job by ALL invloved!!!!!!

Mike P · 03-20-2007, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by NIB

Guy's spending 2-3 hundy on fishing equipment complaining about food prices are funny.
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Many patrons don't spend anywhere near that. Many spend less than $50.

I can't speak for all of the folks who complain, but I think what rubs them the wrong way isn't the cost--it's the fact that they're getting boned. $7.50 for a piece of carboard with a ladle of sauce and a handful of cheese spread over it--rubber burgers--4 oz of soda in a cup with 12 oz of ice for $4. I think if the quality of the food was better, you'd hear fewer complaints. Plus, the stadium security people are downright militant about bringing in outside food/drinks--even with the vendors who come in early to set up before they can even buy a cup of $4 coffee.

daceman63 · 03-20-2007, 08:23 AM

My friends and I walked in with coffees from the outside and nobody said a word. Then after the show we went to the outback for burgers and beer. $20.00 a piece for a burger and two beers each. They were 12 oz. beers. I think the stadium has 16oz. beers? Do they? They do for the games...

But the burger and fries were very tasty.....

jim sylvester · 03-20-2007, 08:29 AM

I wonder if people complain about these prices on food and beer when the pats are palying the colts in a run for the superbowl....problably not because its expected.....

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Originally Posted by Mike P

Many patrons don't spend anywhere near that. Many spend less than $50.

I can't speak for all of the folks who complain, but I think what rubs them the wrong way isn't the cost--it's the fact that they're getting boned. $7.50 for a piece of carboard with a ladle of sauce and a handful of cheese spread over it--rubber burgers--4 oz of soda in a cup with 12 oz of ice for $4. I think if the quality of the food was better, you'd hear fewer complaints. Plus, the stadium security people are downright militant about bringing in outside food/drinks--even with the vendors who come in early to set up before they can even buy a cup of $4 coffee.

Jenn · 03-20-2007, 05:12 PM

[QUOTE=Mike P;475677]Many patrons don't spend anywhere near that. Many spend less than $50.
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I too want to say that I dont think anyone is questioning the fact that MSBA outs on a good show and they try their best for location etc. but the fact of the matter is it cost me a good chunk of change just to go. $25 in gas, $15 to get in (which wouldnt be bad if I knew MSBA was getting a big chunk of that but I doubt it...I am sure it goes to overhead) and I went alone...I cant imagine people bringing spouses or kids what they spend.... I am already spending $40 to get there and in the door. I spent $17.00 on lures/raffle ticket and $4.00 for a med coffee (and no it wasnt very good) I will admit when I got home I felt a little guilty/absurd for spending $60 and all I had to show for it was 2 lures.

I think I lost track of what my point really was but anyway I guess I just mean to say it can be a very expensive show to go to. Although a good show not a show I go to every year and the cost being a big reason why. Now I know not everyone has to drive 180 miles round trip like I did....but I am sure plenty of people had to factor gas$ like I did.

capecodder · 03-21-2007, 01:29 PM

I enjoyed the show as I have in years past at the Armory, Cordage and Kingston. Kudos to the MSBA for their hardwork in pulling this off.

With that said, I think those who say this is primarily a social event need to look a little deeper. If what you are looking for is a social event, fine, but that doesn't help the vendors who need to make enough $$ to justify their effort. Vendors need customers to buy product to make it worth their while and many people are attracted to the show not for social ties, or for that matter an interest in the social gathering, but to buy stuff.

Having people come and talk is great, but if the vendors don't sell anything, why bring the goods? Just go to a club meeting and hang out...

The danger I see for this expo is a downward spiral.

It was very evident to me that this year was significantly down in terms of vendors. Last year appeared (to me) to be down compared to the year before. I am now questioning whether I will go next year as their is less to look at and shop for. With lower attendance, fewer vendors will show up. It is a death spiral.

Also, those who say RISSA should be moved because they have only been doing it for 4 years are missing something called competition. Last I checked the RI show has 4-5 times the vendors as the MSBA show. Newer yes, but much bigger. I only have time for one show and if I had not been away next weekend, it would have been RI not the MA show.

Competition is what it is.

That said, I'm thrilled with my new CMS rod and assortment of RonZ plastics. I enjoyed Flaps presentation as well.

I think there has been a lot of honest feedback on this board that MSBA should listen to. If a social gathering is desired, fantastic. But if an expo with vendors is desired, there may be some trouble ahead.

Slingah · 03-21-2007, 01:58 PM

great post cape codder
with all thats been said I'll add my .02......
I will attend anywhere the club does a show....but after 2 years, I don't think Gillette is the place for it...a free trade show, ya....but not if you have to spend all that coin and still not find an abundance of gear or deals.....bigger isnt alway better
I do understand finding space is an issue....but there is always a solution....kudos to Patrick and the crew....
THE SHOW MUST GO ON

BigFish · 03-21-2007, 02:53 PM

Again....must reiterate......11 vendors cancelled Friday due to the weather....that roughly translates to 1/10th of the shows vendors......that is one reason things seemed lean! What do you think would happen to the RISSA show if the same thing happened? There would be cancellations and the show would be missing some vendors.

Remember....if you don't support these events...in good years and in bad....they will disappear.....then you will have something to complain about!

big jay · 03-21-2007, 04:12 PM

I want to thank the MSBA people for putting on a great show. My dad had a booth there for the first time this year (Laura-Jay Charters) and he was very happy. I was only there for the set-up, but the fact that there were 5 guys waiting at the loading dock all with dolleys waiting to help you transport your gear was impressive.
We saw a ton of people, sold almost all of the daisy chains I crimped up, overall it was a success. (Thanks to the pt Jude guys for loaning us an extra table, or my tuna gear would have been on the floor).
Normally we only do 3 shows, 2 small ones and RISAA. We'll definately be back next year.
That must be a ton of work with an all volunteer staff. Great Work guys.

DZ · 03-21-2007, 04:55 PM

I haven't been to the MSBA show since it moved to Gillete - not that I don't want to go but because I don't like "Big Venues". It was always my favorite show before it moved.
The RISAA show is a turn off for me - too big and what I shell out for parking and entry could buy a Beachmaster.
The SWE show is smaller - much more intimate - free parking, free entry. Hard to beat. Nice talking with a vendor without 10 guys looking over your shoulder. This show and Plugathon are my favorites. They give me the fix I need to get to casting time.

But success of various shows sometimes means expanding to a larger space - a real fine line here.

One thing is sure - the guys who put on these shows work their but off - they deserve lots of credit.

DZ

parker23 · 03-21-2007, 05:35 PM

I enjoyed the show. A few great presentations, and some great custom gear got me worked up for the season. Plus talking w/#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&, made the $15.00 well worth the trip. Heck, $15.00 is less than a round of drinks at your favorite watering hole.
Great job MSBA, the show was fantastic.

pete santini · 03-22-2007, 08:01 AM

The MSBA show was great thanks for all the people that stopped by the booth. Ya bigfish is right We cant afford to have this show dissapear. Its always been one of my favorites and i've attended it for years. Remember you got people like patrick doin all the organizing and johnny "cherrybeak " cherico setting up and everyone else that helps out. They do it for us not for them . Thanks for a great show see you next year no matter what SANTINI

RIROCKHOUND · 03-22-2007, 08:04 AM

Thats always been my thoughts DZ.
IF I'm not looking for a deal on a big ticket item, the parking and entrance at RISAA or other big shows just isn't worth it. A beachmaster?
Parking/Entrance is 1+Dozen eels or 4 Redfins on sale

basshunter · 03-24-2007, 08:53 PM

The future of the MSBA Expo for next year will be in the hands of its membership at Wednesday nights meeting. Hopefully everyone will realize the value and importance of holding this event. I believe that without the weather we encountered just before the show, the expo would have been a huge success! We don't live in a perfect world, but everyone did everything possible to make sure that everyone had a great time and things went as smoothly as possible. The seminars were awesome and there was still a great variety of fishing equipment and charter services. I'm glad that all of the vendors that were present gave credit to all of the MSBA members that were there to help load and unload. I've never seen anyone work at anything as hard as Patrick did on this event. Hopefully, MSBA membership will take everything into consideration and agree that an expo next year would be the best thing for this club.