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09-06-2007, 04:55 AM
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Location: Coventry, RI
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Originally Posted by Nebe
This is just me and yes i am biased because i have been writing for them, but I think people cancel or loose interest in the magazine because there is a learning curve in surfcasting or boat fishing and once you start on that climb, the fisherman and OTW are great ways to glean knowledge. But lets face it, once you get to a certain point, that curve starts to flatten out and the magazines that were once great learning tools become less interesting. It happened to me and i am sure others will agree.
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Their are only so many ways you can present "Basic Eel Fishing for Big Bass" or the like. To keep the interest of veteran anglers and readers it often takes interesting writing. A little occational humor combined with experiences and insight can often keep readers tuned in. The Fisherman tends to take a "just the facts, ma'am" approach which after about a million articles becomes a bit of a yawn.
I like Zach myself and have fished and knocked down a few with him. I wish him well. I stopped submitting articles to the magazine a couple of years ago because I tired of the lack of communication. Fishing articles have a shelf life that coresponds with the season. When a writer doesn't know where an article stands it doesn't allow him to get the story published in a timely manner. I've had much better communication with the other mags I write for.
We've not yet met, Dave, but good luck and maybe we'll try it again.
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Catch'em up,
ThomCat
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09-07-2007, 01:38 PM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The Sack Of Mass
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Yea Let's try it again. Give me a chance
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Originally Posted by ThomCat
Their are only so many ways you can present "Basic Eel Fishing for Big Bass" or the like. To keep the interest of veteran anglers and readers it often takes interesting writing. A little occational humor combined with experiences and insight can often keep readers tuned in. The Fisherman tends to take a "just the facts, ma'am" approach which after about a million articles becomes a bit of a yawn.
I like Zach myself and have fished and knocked down a few with him. I wish him well. I stopped submitting articles to the magazine a couple of years ago because I tired of the lack of communication. Fishing articles have a shelf life that coresponds with the season. When a writer doesn't know where an article stands it doesn't allow him to get the story published in a timely manner. I've had much better communication with the other mags I write for.
We've not yet met, Dave, but good luck and maybe we'll try it again.
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09-07-2007, 01:49 PM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The Sack Of Mass
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Thanks to everyone. I can't say that I'll change the face of the magazine or outdoor writing..
But I appreciate the crtiticism just as much as I do the compliments and "atta boys"... And when I say I'll read a sample from anyone who wants to give writing a go.... I MEAN IT... One major thing that will help the face of the magazine to change is new writers with new angles. I've always said/thought that even something as seemingly obvious as Thom's example "Eeling basics for Big Bass" would probably be a great read over and over if Toby wrote it, or John Lee or Zach or Charley, McKenna, #^^^^^^&, or Cookie Monster.. because these guys are all going to have insights and nuances all their own. If you ever go looking for an article about surfcasting that will totally blow you away after 5 years of doing it/reading about it... you're screwed, you're not gonna find one... but if you read the articles for new spins or maybe just an "Oh, I never thought of it that way" than you've won... just adding a new item to your extensive bag of tricks. I could babble on about how nice it is to have a good read from a good writer, but I might be one of the few dorks that just likes that. Guess that's why I have this job. Anyway... please email me if you guys have ideas, photos, article queries or just a suggestion.
Thanks.
-Dave Anderson
danderson@thefisherman.com
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09-07-2007, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Canalman
One major thing that will help the face of the magazine to change is new writers with new angles.
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Dave, if you want an article on wader/dry top color coordination and matching waterproof fabric textures for the season...
Just let me know
-spence
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09-07-2007, 07:10 AM
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Dave.Congrats and good luck with your new venture. Always enjoyed your informative articles. Billy D. C.S.A.
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Billy D.
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09-07-2007, 09:10 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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Congrats again buddy. You will do a great job. I too used to be a big reader of the mag. I have not seen it in years though. Maybe I will start to check it out again. Good luck. P.
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09-07-2007, 09:30 AM
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It's about respect baby!
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Dont really read it or anything.
But congratulations dave, best of luck 
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Domination takes full concentration..
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09-07-2007, 02:05 PM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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Dave.
Shoot me an email.
J.L. has been trying to twist my arm...
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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09-07-2007, 02:25 PM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The Sack Of Mass
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
Dave.
Shoot me an email.
J.L. has been trying to twist my arm...
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It's on its way
twist twist
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09-07-2007, 03:36 PM
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Good luck Dave, I look forward to working with you soon.
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09-07-2007, 03:52 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ThomCat
When a writer doesn't know where an article stands it doesn't allow him to get the story published in a timely manner. I've had much better communication with the other mags I write for.
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Guess I better get that bluefish article up, eh  
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Originally Posted by Canalman
Anyway... please email me if you guys have ideas, photos, article queries or just a suggestion.
Thanks.
-Dave Anderson
danderson@thefisherman.com
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09-08-2007, 04:22 PM
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Dave,
We need to talk about a couple of things of mutual interest between you and nor'east Drop me an e-mail after you get settled in. Where is Zac going?
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09-09-2007, 11:12 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Wakefield, RI
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Have back to being a professional deck ape for the fall (Maridee II, Point Jude) and will be freelancing when the weather gets rotten. Still involved with the mag, but not in the day-to-day.
Dave, needless to say, is going to do great. Any magazine--I don't care which one--needs some fresh blood after X years, or, as some here have pointed out, it gets stale. Dave's got a lot of good ideas, and a pretty damned fine set of writing/ editing skills. I'm psyched he's there now, 'cause one of my only worries about stepping out was being replaced by a chump.
Good luck, Dave. I'm looking forward (sincerely) to seeing the course you plot.
ZH
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09-10-2007, 12:56 AM
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Finally
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ZuluHotel
Have back to being a professional deck ape for the fall (Maridee II, Point Jude) and will be freelancing when the weather gets rotten. Still involved with the mag, but not in the day-to-day.
Dave, needless to say, is going to do great. Any magazine--I don't care which one--needs some fresh blood after X years, or, as some here have pointed out, it gets stale. Dave's got a lot of good ideas, and a pretty damned fine set of writing/ editing skills. I'm psyched he's there now, 'cause one of my only worries about stepping out was being replaced by a chump.
Good luck, Dave. I'm looking forward (sincerely) to seeing the course you plot.
ZH
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Kind word Zacs, Dave will appreciate I'm sure. Widh u the best on your new venture..
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09-10-2007, 06:46 AM
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Zac,
Glad tyo hear that there were no hard feelings. I'll stop by next time I'm down that way. maybe we can wet a line together one day when you're not working.
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09-10-2007, 07:26 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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Zacs...
You got on a good boat, I have mutual friends who are good buddies with Andy, it's a good boat and good capt..
best of luck!
Bryan
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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09-10-2007, 07:44 AM
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Location: South County
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Zach,
Keep taking pictures and don't drop you pen overboard--you may miss the best line of the day. Better yet bring a voice/burner/recorder/2gig/hard-drive input moderator, along with you.
I'd also finally if I had to recommend something, a triviality perhaps to some, is handy to others in you forthcoming field: a goatee and a smoking jacket.
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09-10-2007, 07:59 AM
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Location: newport
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 Best of luck in your new position Dave! Yikes tons of advice...go with your gut,you'll be fine.
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09-10-2007, 07:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
Zacs...
You got on a good boat, I have mutual friends who are good buddies with Andy, it's a good boat and good capt..
best of luck!
Bryan
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Bottom fish??
Black Fish ??
Hows the bite up there Now..
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FORE!
It's usually darkest just before it turns Black..
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09-13-2007, 08:41 AM
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Location: Lombardia
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Am I a Googling moron or is Amazon the only internet contact point for The Fisherman, if one wants to get a subscription?
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