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11-02-2010, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeal
I won't smear Neil Young, his instrumentals are great but that guy's voice is nails on a chalkboard to me.
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Ever notice that most of the Great Songwriters really have no business near a Microphone......
Neil Young
Bob Dylan
Bruce Springsteen
Tom Petty
Pete Townsend
To name a few....and I do like most of them...but sometimes....nails on a chalkboard |
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11-02-2010, 03:52 PM
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I agree and I'll take it a step further...this is gonna be very controversial, but I think Bob Dylan is probably THE MOST overrated performer ever. The guy is legitimately horrible.
Sure, he has written some good songs, but have you heard his version of watchtower? It's just terrible! If it wasn't for people like Hendrix to make his songs good, he would have faded away a long time ago!
At least Bruce rocks out and has energy and a great band, what does Dylan have, but a horrible voice, terrible guitar playing and harmonica playing that sounds like a dying cat?
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11-03-2010, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Rockport24
I agree and I'll take it a step further...this is gonna be very controversial, but I think Bob Dylan is probably THE MOST overrated performer ever. The guy is legitimately horrible.
Sure, he has written some good songs, but have you heard his version of watchtower? It's just terrible! If it wasn't for people like Hendrix to make his songs good, he would have faded away a long time ago!
At least Bruce rocks out and has energy and a great band, what does Dylan have, but a horrible voice, terrible guitar playing and harmonica playing that sounds like a dying cat?
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Hendrix really doesn't have any business near a microphone either....Don't get me wrong, their songwriting was their strong point....and I like a lot of Dylan's music just the way he plays it. Just not a singer...IMHO
Bruce is a great songwriter but If Bruce didn't have the "E" street Band......he'd be a lounge singer  |
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11-03-2010, 07:12 AM
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Bob's a poet with a Guitar - period...
he was sorta the first rapper in a way
he earned a good living doing it.
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11-03-2010, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Raven
Bob's a poet with a Guitar - period...
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Good analogy  |
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11-03-2010, 10:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockport24
I agree and I'll take it a step further...this is gonna be very controversial, but I think Bob Dylan is probably THE MOST overrated performer ever. The guy is legitimately horrible.
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Also regarded by many as the most influential music artist of the last 50 years.
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Sure, he has written some good songs, but have you heard his version of watchtower? It's just terrible! If it wasn't for people like Hendrix to make his songs good, he would have faded away a long time ago!
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This is a classic. Please, read this again...
-spence |
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11-02-2010, 03:57 PM
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oh yeah and anything by Elvis Costello also sucks the big one! he is also horribly overrated
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11-03-2010, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Rockport24
oh yeah and anything by Elvis Costello also sucks the big one! he is also horribly overrated
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I never want to fish with you again..... |
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11-03-2010, 10:05 AM
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I never want to fish with you again.....
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c'mon! you seriously like that "Alison" tune? It's such a whiney lame song! |
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11-03-2010, 10:27 AM
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11-03-2010, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Rockport24
c'mon! you seriously like that "Alison" tune? It's such a whiney lame song!
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Pump it up rocks
Everyday I write the Book is another great tune
Watching the detectives....a lot of good music..
Throw a few of your favs out here....I can dissect the best of them  |
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11-21-2010, 07:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockport24
oh yeah and anything by Elvis Costello also sucks the big one! he is also horribly overrated
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wow....olivers army, angels want to wear my red shoes, what's so funny about peace.... |
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11-21-2010, 10:27 PM
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casey jones? the greatful dead. i hate them, phish too!!!!
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work hard, fish hard and die happy!
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11-03-2010, 09:57 AM
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I like Hendrix's voice.
lets stick to songs. Seasons in the SUn is classic, definitely a puker.
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11-03-2010, 10:04 AM
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I like a lot of Dylan's music if I want to take a nap! just soooooo boring
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11-03-2010, 03:26 PM
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"Hail to the Chief" because of what will follow (or more readily WHO will follow).
(Maybe this should be in the political thread or maybe the Grumpage thread)
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11-03-2010, 08:11 PM
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11-03-2010, 09:57 PM
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Smokin In The Boys' Room
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11-04-2010, 05:05 AM
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Youngsters Spence  .....no respect for the guys that pioneered R&R |
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11-19-2010, 01:37 PM
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sorry, I finally got around to following up on this debate.
I'll give you that Dylan is the main reason a lot of the best artists even got into music, so he deserves credit for that. I still think his own performances are horrible.
I get that you don't need to be the best techinal musician to be brilliant and influential, but there is a line where somebody is just unlistenable
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11-19-2010, 01:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockport24
sorry, I finally got around to following up on this debate.
I'll give you that Dylan is the main reason a lot of the best artists even got into music, so he deserves credit for that. I still think his own performances are horrible.
I get that you don't need to be the best techinal musician to be brilliant and influential, but there is a line where somebody is just unlistenable
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I totally get this.....
I use to make fun of Dylan and had a pretty good impersonation of him down...I could not listen to him and that nasal wining that he calls singing...then one day I realized I liked him and now give him credit for the great songwriter he is.
I saw him once too....he sucked.  |
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11-22-2010, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Slingah
I totally get this.....
I use to make fun of Dylan and had a pretty good impersonation of him down...I could not listen to him and that nasal wining that he calls singing...then one day I realized I liked him and now give him credit for the great songwriter he is.
I saw him once too....he sucked. |
The best way to listen to Dylan is when someone else (anyone else) covers his songs.
Even when that someone is Peter, Paul and Mary.  |
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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11-22-2010, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike P
The best way to listen to Dylan is when someone else (anyone else) covers his songs.
Even when that someone is Peter, Paul and Mary. |
THANK YOU! this is what I mean, it's not that he isn't "good", it's that he can't perform to save his life! |
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11-21-2010, 11:22 PM
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I agree with the cheap trick I want you to want me 
also Sweet Caroline 
and I could go the rest of my life without hearing born to run ever again, but I think Bruce was a fantastic live performer, kinda like janis joplin who also has no real voice just a lot of soul. |
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11-22-2010, 12:29 PM
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people, you have missed the worst song of all.
YOU LIGHT UP MY LIFE..
for you younger guys, please do not listen to this.
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put them back alive. i do have grandkids.
as your hair gets whiter, your gear gets lighter. 
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11-22-2010, 03:07 PM
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Danke Schoen sung by Wayne Newton
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11-22-2010, 03:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
Danke Schoen sung by Wayne Newton
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The only redeeming quality of that recording is wondering how the heck that is a man singing it!  |
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11-23-2010, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Danke Schoen sung by Wayne Newton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
The only redeeming quality of that recording is wondering how the heck that is a man singing it! |
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11-22-2010, 03:40 PM
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And for the record, I agree that Dylan is overrated. he was in the right place at the right time, playing to the right people. There are other artists that are his contemporaries that are much better. I dont think if you went back in time and removed him from musical history that the music of the last 50 yrs would be much different. You cant say that about Elvis, Chuck Berry or even Hank Williams. I think the lyrics of the Beatles are much better and far reaching, never mind the instrumentation, harmonies, recording techniques that they did. Give me Woodie Guthrie over Dylan any day......
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11-22-2010, 03:43 PM
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yawn..........
Bob Dylan has been described as one of the most
influential figures of the 20th century, musically and
culturally. Dylan was included in the Time 100: The Most
Important People of the Century where he was called
"master poet, caustic social critic and intrepid, guiding
spirit of the counterculture generation".
and the other side of the coin (which I agree with)
http://www.hobotrashcan.com/2008/09/...ted-bob-dylan/ |
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