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Old 04-30-2011, 09:01 PM   #1
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It's legal is not an excuse.. We all know that.. Seems there is this disconnect from right and legal.
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Old 05-01-2011, 08:15 AM   #2
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It's legal is not an excuse.. We all know that.. Seems there is this disconnect from right and legal.
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WOW!!.....so now I need an excuse to keep a fish??


This "disconnect" you speak of is the difference between those of you who fish primarily for SPORT and those of us who fish BOTH for sport and personal CONSUMPTION, as I described in my earlier post).
MOST of you started fishing for Sport. As a child growing up, my father & family (immigrants) fished more for table-fare than for amusement, I guess that trait or gene still resides in this fish-eater..Striped-Bass is a strong 2nd to Tautog on my fish menu. Yes, preferred over Tuna, Salmon, etc/// I GUARANTEE that if those of you strongly advocating strictly or 99.9999% C&R enjoyed eating fish or had a similar type of background, you would feel differently. I also do not sell any of what I keep, unlike many others (but again, to each their own).

Seems some of you will never understand. I guess this <<smiley)) was made for those of us who use the "legality" excuse when keeping fish..

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Old 05-01-2011, 08:45 AM   #3
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I agree with the observation that striped bass stocks are declining (based on my data and other data). Hence, for this season, like the past three seasons, I am planning to harvest one fish for a family dinner and release the rest after taking a quick measurement and picture.

My $0.01. ;-).

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Old 05-01-2011, 09:09 AM   #4
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Frand D. is the man. Some of you are just cranky, get over it.

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Old 05-01-2011, 02:59 PM   #5
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bloocrab if your father hit you to punish you as a child does that make it okay for you to do the same? Look I know the point you are trying to make. But it is you that is not looking at this from any other viewpoint than your own needs/wants. The fishery is more important than any individuals desires/needs/wants

If the stock were strong and vital....like before the moratorium years then that is a different story. But there is a serious issue with the stock declining....for many reasons. And so we all should do our part to conserve and preserve before it is all gone or we get a moratorium again

More than likely your father lived through the moratorium years and survived without taking any stripers during that time. Do we really need to repeat our past mistakes?

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Old 05-03-2011, 04:15 PM   #6
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bloocrab if your father hit you to punish you as a child does that make it okay for you to do the same? Look I know the point you are trying to make. But it is you that is not looking at this from any other viewpoint than your own needs/wants. The fishery is more important than any individuals desires/needs/wants

If the stock were strong and vital....like before the moratorium years then that is a different story. But there is a serious issue with the stock declining....for many reasons. And so we all should do our part to conserve and preserve before it is all gone or we get a moratorium again

More than likely your father lived through the moratorium years and survived without taking any stripers during that time. Do we really need to repeat our past mistakes?

99.9% of the time, that my father hit me, I deserved it. Does the 0.1% justify that he never should have? I don't think so. I wasn't disciplined abusively, physically yes...but not abusively (there's a difference). In real-time, I think I'm an o.k. fella, some of the things learned by the belt weren't all that bad. Thick-headed people sometimes need pain in the deliverance of a message or lesson. In relation to your remarks, I guess you could say that the "pain" in my example would be another "moratorium", right?...I agree.

In saying that, I still think 1-2 fish per recreational fisherman is a fair number. (I am perfectly fine with 1fish@whateversize ) I never said that there wasn't a problem. Perhaps the thought of not being able to keep a striped-bass for the table bothers me, which is what I believe most C&R want. Therefore my thoughts on the matter remain the same....and yes, my father and I both lived through the moratorium years. I don't believe the problem is with the recreational side of this equation so why should I agree with accepting it's punishment?

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Old 05-03-2011, 07:38 PM   #7
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Would willing to release yours in order to make them realse thiers? (commercial fishermen)
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Old 05-03-2011, 08:08 PM   #8
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Would willing to release yours in order to make them realse thiers?

Cheek turning doesn't work in that industry... Shut it down for everyone, Mission accomplished. They will never regulate "them" enough to make "THE" difference needed,,, 2much$$$$ involved. Meanwhile, I too...will eat the fruit from the Garden of Eden, less the sin, in my eyes anways...

I have no problem catching them by accident while targeting bluefish (and releasing them) if it were ever to get shut down...

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Old 05-04-2011, 09:10 AM   #9
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Yes.
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Old 05-03-2011, 08:13 PM   #10
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At least we would give one less person to point the finger at
The only way it would work is everyone has to let them go and that won't happen
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