US Ambassador killed in Libya

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

It didn't happen.

During the day on Tuesday(9-11) the embassy in Cairo independently put out a statement condemning the video before any violence began.

-spence

this is comical....I guess the buck stops over there

let's see

unaffiliated "independent" mystery embassy statement-

“[B]The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims — as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions.” So declared the Obama State Department in a statement issued on the website of its Egyptian embassy

Obama statement-

"While the United States rejects efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others, we must all unequivocally oppose the kind of senseless violence that took the lives of these public servants," Obama said.

this seems a bit backward to me, Obama has, and many of his most ardent supporters routinely denigrate the religious beliefs of others, it's practically a sport with many on the "intellectual left"....I don't recall any opposition or apologies.....

the second part of the statement is what should have been first.... senselessly murdering someone or burning buildings because someone on the other side of the planet offended your sensibilities would seem to be the logical object of your scorn...wouldn't it? I don't think the first and the second deserve equal treatment...not even close

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

this is comical....I guess the buck stops over there

let's see

unaffiliated "independent" mystery embassy statement-

“[B]The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims — as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions.” So declared the Obama State Department in a statement issued on the website of its Egyptian embassy

Obama statement-

"While the United States rejects efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others, we must all unequivocally oppose the kind of senseless violence that took the lives of these public servants," Obama said.

this seems a bit backward to me, Obama has, and many of his most ardent supporters routinely denigrate the religious beliefs of others, it's practically a sport with many on the "intellectual left"....I don't recall any opposition or apologies.....

the second part of the statement is what should have been first.... senselessly murdering someone or burning buildings because someone on the other side of the planet offended your sensibilities would seem to be the logical object of your scorn...wouldn't it? I don't think the first and the second deserve equal treatment...not even close

Damn right.

(1) I have never heard Obama chastise his fellow liberals for bashing Christianity. These people hate Catholics, and they make no secret about it. But since Catholics have not been anointed with "victim" status by liberals, it is therefore acceptable to attack Catholics at every available moment. SInce Muslims have been anointed with "victim" status by the left, they are a protected species.

(2) as for Obama's statement...the only reference to the youtube video should have been a statement that Muslims, like everyone else, need to accept the unfortunate reality that there are jerks out there, and even jerks have the right to free speech.

I cannot wait to hear Spence's "response" to this...

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

this is comical....I guess the buck stops over there

let's see

unaffiliated "independent" mystery embassy statement-

“[B]The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims — as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions.” So declared the Obama State Department in a statement issued on the website of its Egyptian embassy

I'm not aware of any issuance by the State Department using the words "feelings of Muslims".

What you have is a right wing media trying to manipulate an unfortunate situation through confusion for political gain. I'm not sure what's worse, those who knowingly manipulate or those who see it and knowingly pass it along.

Sad.

-spence

[Nebe]

Politics disgusts me lately.. All sides disgust me. Both parties would rather point fingers at eachother and kick the issues that need to be fixed down the road to the next guy and then blame everyone else for our problems. Just the notion that this event is being used to prove political points is disgusting.

[spence]

I'm certainly aware of what a sophism is, what I was asking for were examples in this thread where you believe it is evident.

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

I'm certainly aware of what a sophism is, what I was asking for were examples in this thread where you believe it is evident.

-spence

pick a post...it's what you practice, picking a specific post would be enabling, another opportunity for you to argue what the meaning of "is" is, move the goal post, argue, insult, ignore reality...you are "smart"...anyone that disagrees with you is dumb...see your last post....it's an odd game...Obama is brilliant and if you don't get that you just aren't smart enough to understand how really brilliant he really is...YIKES

"It's posts like this that really illustrate how bad a read people have on Obama."-SPENCE

we have a pretty good read on Obama Spence...he's an historic disaster and it's getting worse and he's none of what you continue to pretend he either is or isn't

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

"It's posts like this that really illustrate how bad a read people have on Obama."-SPENCE

That wasn't sophistry.

The investigative report is clearly misleading, even Justplugit is coming to false conclusions.

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

That wasn't sophistry.

The investigative report is clearly misleading, even Justplugit is coming to false conclusions.

-spence

atta boy....you are right, and have all the facts....everyone else is wrong or misleading or misled....makes the world a great place don't it?

[justplugit]

Spence, point being as Commander in Chief, responslble for the safety
of America's Citizens, he is missing personal interaction with his Daily Intelligence
Meetings %50 of the the time, no matter how hard you try to explain it away.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

The investigative report is clearly misleading, even Justplugit is coming to false conclusions.

-spence

Spence, after you were proven wrong by the Washinton Post Thissen Report,
I'm still waiting for your retraction about me coming to false conclusions.
Bold print would be fine.

[RIJIMMY]

For all, please google Fiscal Cliff
This stuff is real. This is non-partisan. This is very, very scary.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

For all, please google Fiscal Cliff
This stuff is real. This is non-partisan. This is very, very scary.

You are a racist. You hate women.