Obama's IRS Targeted the Tea Party

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

I'm not sure that's true. My understanding is that the Whitehouse has little influence over the IRS for obvious reasons. Most government bonuses are automatic (rather than discretionary). There is a special award bonus program that the President does sign, but the recipients are nominated by their leadership up through the ranks...given her pay and the bonus numbers thrown out it doesn't sound like she was awarded a special bonus.



-spence

What is the criteria for getting a taxpayer paid special awards bonus for your Govt. job?
Govt. workers are already paid for their work, get benefits, get retirement
after 25 years service and can't get fired except for wrong doing.

Pray tell, if as you say," the White House has little influence over the IRS", who does????

Simple questions that need simple answers.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I'm not sure that's true. My understanding is that the Whitehouse has little influence over the IRS for obvious reasons. Most government bonuses are automatic (rather than discretionary). There is a special award bonus program that the President does sign, but the recipients are nominated by their leadership up through the ranks...given her pay and the bonus numbers thrown out it doesn't sound like she was awarded a special bonus.

The formula here is becoming pretty clear. Assume the "scandal" then toss out bits of information accurate or not regardless of context to further the story.

That's not how you investigate, it's how you confuse.

-spence

"My understanding is that the Whitehouse has little influence over the IRS "

At a minimum, the White House selects the Treasury Secretary who oversees the IRS. In this case, Obama selected a tax dodger, but we can save that for later...

"Most government bonuses are automatic "

That's a problem, then...

"The formula here is becoming pretty clear. Assume the "scandal" then toss out bits of information accurate or not regardless of context to further the story."

Of course, there are Obama-bashers who will exaggerate or fabricate. The flip side of that coin is you, who will go to any length to deny any criticism, valid or not, be directed at Obama. You have to admit, you're a heck of a cheerleader for the guy, Johnny Carson didn't have so loyal an ally in Ed McMahon. You're like Dwight Schrute to Michael Scott on 'The Office'.

Spence, Obama has a demonstrable history of being less than tolerant to those on my side (Republicans should sit in the back of the bus, we cling to guns and religion because we are bitter and racist, liberals should punish their enemies, Romney is suffering from 'Romnesia' - haw-haw!!). Can you deny that with a straight face? This IRS thing, while there is no direct evidence to Obama, is awfully consistent with the cutlure Obama has brought with his administration...it's an obvious, demonstrable culture of intolerance towards conservatives.

[justplugit]

As the onion peels.
Reported in the NY times --the White House Council knew about the
IRS targeting in April.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by justplugit

As the onion peels.
Reported in the NY times --the White House Council knew about the
IRS targeting in April.

Correct.

And Obama told us he didn't know about this issue until he saw it on the news very recently.

So, (1) either the White House Counsel didn't think this was worth mentioning to his only client, or (2) Obama lied about when/how he found out about this.

[buckman]

This scandal and these attacks on conservatives Is now about to head to other departments particularly the SEC.
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[mosholu]

As I understand it there is a difference between criminal trials and appearing before a legislative body. In a criminal trial you have the right not to testify against yourself and once you take the stand and testify you have to ask the questions asked of you and can not take the fifth. In a legislative appearance you must appear but at anytime you are allowed to take the fifth.
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[justplugit]

I think in this case, because she defended herself first as innocent in her opening statement and then pleaded the Fifth they will bring her back after the smaller fish are fried.

As these scandals go on, it's going to be interesting to see the Libs who
consider the Constitution as a living breathing document cling to
the Fifth Amendment.
Of course they will say that one is set in stone.

[justplugit]

Geez, where is the other 1/2, sequestered with Joe.
This is no fun.