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[stripermaineiac]

I'm gettin a mixed bag. 18 in to a couple over 45 in. The bait guys are doin better but i'm usin just my plugs.I've had 6 fishless night so far but I've been chased off the water by the t boomer a lot lately.I think I'm runnin about average but I fish a lot more than most plus mostly at night.

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by bobber

the biggest difference about snook (or whatever) in Florida is that the state is allowed to make their own rules on how that species is regulated. stripers are managed by ASMFC- a group that sets limits for ALL states to conform to. so any conservation-minded area or group doesn't have the ability to set a more conservative limit in their state

That is absolutely untrue! The ASMFC sets the most liberal rule a state can adopt, any state or all states can opt to use more restrictive rules. Like NY where up until recently the limit for private boaters and surfcasters was one fish at 28 inches while most states were at 2 fish at 28 inches.

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by BasicPatrick

The Addendum contains the across the board 30% mortality reduction that the science says is the right number.

Don't be fooled, look at the fine print, that 30% reduction only has a 50% probability of preventing overfishing. That's like a coin toss, and IMHO no way to manage a fishery.

[MAKAI]

Is there a well managed fishery ?
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[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by MAKAI

Is there a well managed fishery ?
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I'd say that there are numerous well managed fisheries.

[MAKAI]

Such as ?

I used to enjoy cod fishing, fluke fishing, bluefin tuna fishing, and what's left of striped bass fishing.

Maybe I'll switch to seabass, dogfish, bluefish, scup and the like.
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[peterpanwkfd]

I honestly would just like to see the environmental police out more. I had my license checked once this year. And I have only seen them twice. It made me happy to actually see DEM checking my license. I know that the majority of people around me most nights do not have a salt license. And those are the folks keeping fish, undersized and/or over limit. I don't keep at all. I like fish, but I like having the fishery there MORE. I don't think reg's alone are going to help. Enforcement is the key. Whether its us scolding these folks or DEM citing them.

[fumifish]

How much money do the rec guys boat/surf contribute to the overall economy? tackle manufactures? boat manufactures? gas/fuel stations? boat repair? marinas? tons of people being around the east coast because people love chasing fish.



Markets that benefit from the surf or boat angler should be worried if striped bass are decimated again. Maybe if they formed a group to lobby and ensure a healthy striped bass population?

[bobber]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

Like NY where up until recently the limit for private boaters and surfcasters was one fish at 28 inches while most states were at 2 fish at 28 inches.

yeah- and the charter boat fleet was "allowed" to keep 2 fish per person- (including the captain, mate, cook, the cook's girlfriend, etc)

not really a more restrictive limit- just geared to let the charter guys make more money off the the public resource

[Mr. Sandman]

No sale coast wide.

1 fish >36" for recs. When you keep a fish, you are done, no further c&r.

More focus on forage fish.
More focus on enforcement.

I think we are in a lot worse shape than these guys realize.

[Mr. Sandman]

Originally Posted by MAKAI

Such as ?

I used to enjoy cod fishing, fluke fishing, bluefin tuna fishing, and what's left of striped bass fishing.

Maybe I'll switch to seabass, dogfish, bluefish, scup and the like.
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Some day you will be eating spider crab and jellyfish sandwiches, that is what it is coming to.

NO TRAWLING IN SOUNDS OR INSHORE!!! This is mowing the lawn on prime habitat.

[Clammer]

Sand , I have a good friend that is a commercial digger /fisherman ................ he has a picker when digging & he told me last yeaR THAT IF & WHEN HE CATCHES BIG SPIDERS >>>>>>>>> the kid takes them home to eat

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by bobber

yeah- and the charter boat fleet was "allowed" to keep 2 fish per person- (including the captain, mate, cook, the cook's girlfriend, etc)

not really a more restrictive limit- just geared to let the charter guys make more money off the the public resource

When 99% of the fisherman are restricted to one fish per day, I'd say that's a good example of states being allowed to adopt more restrictive regulations.

[piemma]

Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman

No sale coast wide.

1 fish >36" for recs. When you keep a fish, you are done, no further c&r.

More focus on forage fish.
More focus on enforcement.

I think we are in a lot worse shape than these guys realize.

Of course we are but no one listens to the stupid fishermen who are on the water 120 days a year.

[bart]

Originally Posted by fumifish

How much money do the rec guys boat/surf contribute to the overall economy? tackle manufactures? boat manufactures? gas/fuel stations? boat repair? marinas? tons of people being around the east coast because people love chasing fish.



Markets that benefit from the surf or boat angler should be worried if striped bass are decimated again. Maybe if they formed a group to lobby and ensure a healthy striped bass population?

[bobber]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

When 99% of the fisherman are restricted to one fish per day, I'd say that's a good example of states being allowed to adopt more restrictive regulations.

but why the double standard??

[MAKAI]

$$$$$
Nuff said.
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[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by bobber

but why the double standard??

What's the difference? just using it as an example of the states adopting stricter regs than the ASMFC allows.