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Jim in CT · 12-06-2015, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch

You've said a whole lot of stuff . . . but you still have not pointed out one wrong thing about what the speaker in the video said.

Because he can't point out any mistakes. This is what liberals do. Nebe and Spence cannot begin to tell us anything the guy said that was wrong (because nothing he said was wrong), so they call him a racist Islamophobe. That's liberalism, they continue to cling to the narrative, even when it has been shown to be wrong.

Meanwhile, the guy who gave that speech, has probably been decapitated by now by the religion of peace.

Tomorrow is the anniversary of Pearl Harbor. What would Obama have said if he was President? ""Yesterday, December 7, 1941, was a day which will live in tolerance and moral equivalence. Let me make one thing absolutely clear: we are not at war with Japan, which is one of the world's great empires. The future must not belong to those who criticize the emperor of Japan, just because a handful of fanatics perverted the great message of the Japanese imperialists. If anyone says anything anti-Japanese, I will have my department of justice investigate them."

Nebe · 12-07-2015, 10:20 AM

I find it pretty sad that I find myself who is pretty much an atheist has stronger christian beliefs that most christians out there. I give to charity, I would welcome a stranger in who might need help, I don't judge others and I am pretty much a pacifist. But the hate, the fear, the ignorant whitewashing i have seen lately by those who wear their religions on their sleeves as a badge of pride is really sad. I suppose we will all be judged by our actions in the end.

scottw · 12-07-2015, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebe

I don't judge others and I am pretty much a pacifist. But the hate, the fear, the ignorant whitewashing i have seen lately by those who wear their religions on their sleeves as a badge of pride is really sad. I suppose we will all be judged by our actions in the end.

sounds pretty judgmental

Jim in CT · 12-07-2015, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw

sounds pretty judgmental

Right!

"I'm not being judgmental, but I find your opinions to be loathsome."

Nebe, what evidence do you have that your actions are superior to those whom you are attacking, and I presume you are talking about me?

I am a devout, thought obviously flawed, Catholic. There is nothing, absolutely NOTHING in the catechism, to suggest that when a group of people want nothing more than to kill my whole family, that as a Catholic I'm supposed to respond with hugs.

Again, did you feel your grandfather was an accomplice to genocide? If not, why were his actions any diferent than what you think I am suggesting.

There were Japanese citizens that wanted nothing to do with the war, and thousands of them were fried to death during the napalm bombing carried out by the US. Was that "genocide" on our part? Was it unethical? What was the alternative, to let Japan continue to rape their way across China, and continue to eat the flesh of captured enemies? Because that's what they were doing. And they were not going to stop until they were brought to their knees. And this enemy has many of the same attributes as the Japanese that you rgrandfather helped kill (or woud you call it "murder"?) at Tarawa. They are fanatics who, simply, will not stop. Ever.

Jim in CT · 12-07-2015, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebe

But the hate, the fear, the ignorant whitewashing i have seen lately by those who wear their religions on their sleeves as a badge of pride is really sad. I suppose we will all be judged by our actions in the end.

You know what's truly sad? I asked you, three times, to tell me what the guy said in the video, which you could show was wrong. And you offered exactly, precisely, zilch. So you cannot suggest that ANYTHING he said in a 6 minute speech was wrong, but you can't conclude he therefore has a point.

Plenty of insults from you (he's a genocidal racist!!). But you cannot counter one single thing he said. All you did was hurl insults.

And that's my opinion of classic liberalism, in a nutshell. When you know you cannot refute what we are saying, you hurl claims of hate and racism instead. It's a tiresome and predictable response to what was a fair question by me.

detbuch · 12-07-2015, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

And that's my opinion of classic liberalism, in a nutshell.

I'm, guessing by classic liberalism you don't mean classical liberalism which is entirely different than what are referred to as political liberals today. In many respects, you are a classical liberal. And, by the way, in many respects, Nebe is not.

Jim in CT · 12-07-2015, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch

I'm, guessing by classic liberalism you don't mean classical liberalism which is entirely different than what are referred to as political liberals today. In many respects, you are a classical liberal. And, by the way, in many respects, Nebe is not.

Yes, I meant it was a classic example of how they behave today. This could not have been a better example to prove my point. Which is, when faced with the reality that the other guy is stating facts and telling the truth, rather than admit that he might therefore have a valid point, most liberals will yell "hate crime!" and then run away with their fingers in their ears. They do it all the time, on every issue.

If you are pro-life, liberals say you are attacking women's health.
If you disagree with Obama, you are a racist.
If you want to do what's necessary to stop ISIS, you are an Islamophobe
If you want our duly constituted immigration laws enforced, you are an anti-latino bigot
If you like the free market, you love Wall Street and hate the little guy
If you are opposed to gay marriage, you are necessarily a homophobe
If you concede that Social Security needs to be fixed, you don't like old people
If youthink we should pay our teachers only what we can afford, you don't care if kids are illiterate.
If you think Medicare is in financial trouble, then as Florida senate candidate Alan Greyson says, you want sick people to die.

As Obama said, "Republicans gotta stop just hatin' all the time". Yup, that's all John McCain does all day, every day...he spews hate. John McCain, who adopted a girl from a 3rd world country and changed her life indescribably. Unless Obama is full of sh*t, that was an act of hate, right?

I cannot stand this tactic Detbuch. Our economy, our culture, our moral compass, our physical safety, our ability to make the world a better place...all are in jeopardy. And these people refuse to engage in honest debate.