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09-20-2018, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Clammer
if they had waited until he crossed into Ma, he would have broken the federal Lacy Act ><><
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But if they invested the time to follow him and nab him across state lines with MA also involved, they would have violated both RI's and MA's "DEM/EPO LAZY Act". |
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09-20-2018, 09:51 AM
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Location: Newtown, CT
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Originally Posted by Clammer
if they had waited until he crossed into Ma, he would have broken the federal Lacy Act ><><
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Right! And that can carry some stiff penalties. However they would have had to coordinate with the MA authorities, since the RI authorities couldn't arrest him in MA. |
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09-20-2018, 11:21 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Warwick RI,02889
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no they don,t .the feds would make the arrest ><
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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
MIKE
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09-20-2018, 01:49 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2014
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take the boat and attach the anchor he's not using to his ankle.......
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09-20-2018, 05:00 PM
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Location: Newtown, CT
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Originally Posted by Clammer
no they don,t .the feds would make the arrest ><
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The feds would show up about a week later! |
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09-20-2018, 09:32 AM
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All up in the Interweb!
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: In the dog house.
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
Can anyone point out a case of poaching in Mass where the poacher lost their license or had it suspended? Judges seem to be quite liberal in that regard with slaps on the wrist and tiny fines so maybe the point is moot. Sad state of affairs.
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It happens but not enough. A lure builder up there got caught poaching and lost his license for 3 years. |
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"Out there in the surf is where it's at, that's where the line gets drawn in the sand between those who talk fishing and those who live it."
- a wise man. 
One good fish, a sharpie does not make...
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09-22-2018, 07:43 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 333
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Originally Posted by tlapinski
It happens but not enough. A lure builder up there got caught poaching and lost his license for 3 years.
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that same guy who sells to all the shops still? Those shops that buy from a know poacher? Those shops are just as guilty if you ask me. But guys keep buying his plugs, plus he was allowed into the collectors show last yr in Bourne. |
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09-23-2018, 03:36 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
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Originally Posted by trevier
Those shops are just as guilty if you ask me.
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Guilty of what? Poaching? Doing business with a known poacher?
Guilty of free enterprise capitalism?
A bit of a stretch there don’t ya think?
I’m pretty sure he must have taken his share of lumps but I am not in the loop so maybe not. I didn’t know he lost license for 3 years. Thanks Toby.
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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09-26-2018, 10:42 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: little compton ri 02837
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
Guilty of what? Poaching? Doing business with a known poacher?
Guilty of free enterprise capitalism?
A bit of a stretch there don’t ya think?
I’m pretty sure he must have taken his share of lumps but I am not in the loop so maybe not. I didn’t know he lost license for 3 years. Thanks Toby.
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I just don't get it what's all this concern for a poacher. The way I see it is if someone steals a TV from my house its between that guy and me. However, a poacher steals from every one. And its not just that fish, its the potential of that fish. How many times could people enjoyed catch and releasing that fish? what about the legit commercial guys or the rec who wants a fish for their family. Lastly what about the future fish that could be produced by that fish? I would never purchase plugs from that individual. Furthermore I would think long and hard about patronizing stores that sell his stuff. And if I did need something from that store I would be tempted to express my feelings to the owner. Guess I am a mean guy or an internet troll. To me its black and white. |
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09-19-2018, 11:13 PM
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Pete K.
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Who are this guys friends / fishing partners that they aren't giving him
a mountain of headache for being a poacher lowlife???
maybe his friends are all poachers too...
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09-20-2018, 07:51 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Cumberland, RI
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Originally Posted by ivanputski
Who are this guys friends / fishing partners that they aren't giving him
a mountain of headache for being a poacher lowlife???
maybe his friends are all poachers too...
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Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement -- Keith Benning
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09-20-2018, 09:43 AM
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Too old to give a....
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,505
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License ??
We don’t need no stinkin license ! 👨🏻
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09-20-2018, 02:41 PM
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#13
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: guilford CT
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its time to make poaching penalties hurt a little more. and to get judges to take these kinda things seriously...
for instance- 3 guys in CT were caught with 40-something stripers a few years ago. cops sued fish-sniffing dogs to find them all. all were shorts. only 1 of them had a license.
total fine was $25 for fishing w/o license. they were all seen back fishing 1 week later
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09-21-2018, 07:00 AM
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All up in the Interweb!
Join Date: Mar 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobber
its time to make poaching penalties hurt a little more. and to get judges to take these kinda things seriously...
for instance- 3 guys in CT were caught with 40-something stripers a few years ago. cops sued fish-sniffing dogs to find them all. all were shorts. only 1 of them had a license.
total fine was $25 for fishing w/o license. they were all seen back fishing 1 week later
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Several busts in CT were tossed out due to lack of evidence. Apparently some attorney came up with the great idea that if the cops didn't have physical proof (video/photographic evidence) of the suspect stashing fish in the woods nearby then they could have been placed there by anyone. Now they have to catch them on video to get the charges to stick. |
Co-Host of The Surfcast Podcast
"Out there in the surf is where it's at, that's where the line gets drawn in the sand between those who talk fishing and those who live it."
- a wise man.
One good fish, a sharpie does not make...
Certified rock hopping billy goat.
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09-21-2018, 09:41 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
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Originally Posted by tlapinski
Several busts in CT were tossed out due to lack of evidence. Apparently some attorney came up with the great idea that if the cops didn't have physical proof (video/photographic evidence) of the suspect stashing fish in the woods nearby then they could have been placed there by anyone. Now they have to catch them on video to get the charges to stick.
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You don't think its a good idea to have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone is guilty? |
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09-21-2018, 02:50 PM
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All up in the Interweb!
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: In the dog house.
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Originally Posted by MakoMike
You don't think its a good idea to have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone is guilty?
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I find the need to provide video/photo evidence a bit much. Is the same required to prove possession in other infractions? To me a police officer saying he saw Joe Poacher stash 24 short striped bass in a burlap sack in the woods 20 feet from where he was seen fishing is evidence enough. I still trust the police, but perhaps that is because I live my life wholly above the law. |
Co-Host of The Surfcast Podcast
"Out there in the surf is where it's at, that's where the line gets drawn in the sand between those who talk fishing and those who live it."
- a wise man.
One good fish, a sharpie does not make...
Certified rock hopping billy goat.
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09-21-2018, 08:56 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: guilford CT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tlapinski
I find the need to provide video/photo evidence a bit much. Is the same required to prove possession in other infractions? To me a police officer saying he saw Joe Poacher stash 24 short striped bass in a burlap sack in the woods 20 feet from where he was seen fishing is evidence enough. I still trust the police, but perhaps that is because I live my life wholly above the law.
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I think its IS REASONABLE that guys who were caught fishing in the immediate vicinity where fish are stashed illegally were the ones doing the stashing |
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09-22-2018, 01:17 PM
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#18
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tlapinski
I find the need to provide video/photo evidence a bit much. Is the same required to prove possession in other infractions? To me a police officer saying he saw Joe Poacher stash 24 short striped bass in a burlap sack in the woods 20 feet from where he was seen fishing is evidence enough. I still trust the police, but perhaps that is because I live my life wholly above the law.
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I'm pretty sure you are misstating the issue. If a cop sees someone stashing a short, that's good enough. But its not good enough if he finds a burlap bag full of shorts 20 feet from a fisherman, without actually seeing said fishermen put a fish in the bag. |
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09-21-2018, 10:48 AM
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Too old to give a....
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,505
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Hey!!
What’s up with all the fish in the trunk of your car ?
I don’t know ? I didn’t put them in there. Someone else must’ve done it. Yeah....that’s it ! Someone else did it.
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09-21-2018, 04:32 PM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
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Legal residence?
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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09-22-2018, 03:57 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: I live in a house, but my soul is at sea.
Posts: 8,620
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If the guys name is BillyBob, shouldn’t he be fishing the CT river for catfish, sorry I know it’s a serious subject but I couldn’t resist😬
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09-22-2018, 07:54 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,718
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Who was it,don’t be a pussy, put a name to it.
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09-23-2018, 05:44 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Cape Cod
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Who was it,don’t be a pussy, put a name to it.
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This |
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09-23-2018, 06:23 AM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: R.I.
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^^^^^^^^^
Double this - ^^^^ Who is it?
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09-23-2018, 06:40 AM
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Location: Easton, MA
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09-27-2018, 03:03 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Maine
Posts: 173
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I would never buy those plugs. Maybe he feels bad and has repented but why buy from him when you can buy great quality from stand up guys that really mean what they say and care about the resource.
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