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Old 10-16-2018, 02:55 PM   #1
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Why didn't they? Because they don't really care about sexual abuse, any more than they really care about race. They only pretend to care about such things, when it's politically expedient for them to do so.
I saw several on the left question her comment. But...it was also a consensual relationship between two adults, unethical because of the power imbalance and adultery but a long way from sexual abuse there Jim.
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Old 10-16-2018, 05:38 PM   #2
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I saw several on the left question her comment. But...it was also a consensual relationship between two adults, unethical because of the power imbalance and adultery but a long way from sexual abuse there Jim.
Who criticized Hilary, exactly?

Many feminists would say there is no such thing as consent between the president and a 22 year old intern. As you well know, age doesn't automatically guarantee consent. When the discrepancy in power is sufficient, there can be no consent, regardless of age. And other than teacher and student, it's hard to think of a more unequal balance of authority than between POTUS and intern.

How is it different from relations between a female teacher and a student who's an 18 year-old senior? Illegal in CT, because of the imbalance of power.
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Old 10-18-2018, 11:44 AM   #3
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Who criticized Hilary, exactly?

Many feminists would say there is no such thing as consent between the president and a 22 year old intern. As you well know, age doesn't automatically guarantee consent. When the discrepancy in power is sufficient, there can be no consent, regardless of age. And other than teacher and student, it's hard to think of a more unequal balance of authority than between POTUS and intern.

How is it different from relations between a female teacher and a student who's an 18 year-old senior? Illegal in CT, because of the imbalance of power.
I've seen several, hell even CNN was calling her out. If you go read the archives you won't find me ever claiming the relationship was ethical. Consent can be a gray area also. The CT example you cite was a 22 year old teacher and an 18 year old student. Again, not ethical but not nearly the same power imbalance. Going after her for sexual assault was a bit extreme if you ask me.
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I love what Trump has done. What I like to call good Trump. Bad or stupid Trump makes my skin crawl. Still glad I voted for him and I will again.
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