Country is On Fire

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Dozens of journalists covering anti-racism protests that have rocked the US have reported being targeted by security forces using tear gas, rubber bullets and pepper spray.

now where would they get that Idea from enemy of the people

Yeah . . . as you know . . . the security forces were all trump "supporters" and they heard his dog whistles.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Yeah . . . as you know . . . the security forces were all trump "supporters" and they heard his dog whistles.

Tweety’s tweet

The professionally managed so-called “protesters” at the White House had little to do with the memory of George Floyd. They were just there to cause trouble. The @SecretService handled them easily. Tonight, I understand, is MAGA NIGHT AT THE WHITE HOUSE???
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Tweety’s tweet

The professionally managed so-called “protesters” at the White House had little to do with the memory of George Floyd. They were just there to cause trouble. The @SecretService handled them easily. Tonight, I understand, is MAGA NIGHT AT THE WHITE HOUSE???
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Whoopie . . .

[Got Stripers]

We have reached a low when the president instead of trying to calm the country is threatening US military in states that don’t handle this to his satisfaction.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

We have reached a low when the president instead of trying to calm the country is threatening US military in states that don’t handle this to his satisfaction.

As in past riots that local government couldn't handle, the national guard was able to "calm the country."

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by detbuch

As in past riots that local government couldn't handle, the national guard was able to "calm the country."

The national guard is not the only military action he was threatening, states have done that, he is threatening more federal intervention.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

The national guard is not the only military action he was threatening, states have done that, he is threatening more federal intervention.

if the national guard can’t ensure safety, doesn't trump have the obligation to raise the bar? eisenhower sent in the 101st airborne to ensure school
desegregation after the national guard failed to do so.

if the national guard can’t do it, is the potus supposed to just watch cities burn?
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[Ian]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

if the national guard can’t ensure safety, doesn't trump have the obligation to raise the bar? eisenhower sent in the 101st airborne to ensure school
desegregation after the national guard failed to do so.

if the national guard can’t do it, is the potus supposed to just watch cities burn?
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That’s been his tactic with PPE and other preventative measures with Covid... “Let the states handle it”

Now that black people are involved in an activity associated with unrest, he all of a sudden wants to intervene in state business to look like a tough guy for his supporters

You can have one or the other, but selectively applying your own rules is never a good idea when things are being recorded and reported live
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

The national guard is not the only military action he was threatening, states have done that, he is threatening more federal intervention.

Keyleigh McEnany in her press briefing today said that the "assets" that General Milley would be in charge of is the national guard.

[Sea Dangles]

Yup
He needs to pass out hugs

[Pete F.]

Peaceful protesters were gassed and shot with rubber bullets to clear away a space near a church to give Trump a photo-op waving a bible flanked by AG Barr and Sec Def Esper. Monstrous. Anticonstitutional.

This will get far worse and will escalate enough to fulfill Putin’s dreams

Congratulations Trumplicans

A sad day for Americans

When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.

We are there

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[Pete F.]

Bishop Edgar Budde of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington tells CNN on air: "I am outraged. The president did not pray when he came to St. John's nor did he acknowledge the agony of our country right now."

"We distance ourselves from the incendiary language of this president."
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Bishop Edgar Budde of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington tells CNN on air: "I am outraged. The president did not pray when he came to St. John's nor did he acknowledge the agony of our country right now."

"We distance ourselves from the incendiary language of this president."
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He kind of sounds like you . . . but not as tasteless.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

He kind of sounds like you . . . but not as tasteless.

America doesn’t matter to you, apparently
As long as the Citrus Caligula wins
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

America doesn’t matter to you, apparently
As long as the Citrus Caligula wins
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I think America would be much better without divisive people like you.

[The Dad Fisherman]

behave please.
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[PaulS]

His initials statement(s) were good but he couldn't resist tweeting.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

His initials statement(s) were good but he couldn't resist tweeting.

he can never resist tweeting.
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[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

he can never resist tweeting.
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Or making stupid photo-ops with the bible upside down and backwards a church that didn't even want him. If he at least went inside and prayed the optics of going to that church would not have been so horrid....

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Or making stupid photo-ops with the bible upside down and backwards a church that didn't even want him. If he at least went inside and prayed the optics of going to that church would not have been so horrid....

could he have gone inside and prayed? it was burned. i thought it was an ok move.
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[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

could he have gone inside and prayed? it was burned. i thought it was an ok move.
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The fire was in one room in the basement. My understanding was others were inside.

Even if not, he didn't even try and appear pious, or mournful,it was just a photo-op, one which they had to tear gas and use rubber bullets to clear for the photo.

One of the political shows I used to catch before they moved time slots was a guy on sirius, who would often say, 'Trump is not the Anti-Christ, but Christ is the anti-Trump'... sums him up well I think.

[Redsoxticket]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Or making stupid photo-ops with the bible upside down and backwards a church that didn't even want him

That is want satin would have done with a bible.... upside down and backwards.
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[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Redsoxticket

That is want satin would have done with a bible.... upside down and backwards.
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'Trump is not the Anti-Christ, but Christ is the anti-Trump'

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Ian

What does this have to do with the point that you quoted to respond to?
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You said "That’s been his tactic with PPE and other preventative measures with Covid... 'Let the states handle it'

"Now that black people are involved in an activity associated with unrest, he all of a sudden wants to intervene in state business to look like a tough guy for his supporters

"You can have one or the other, but selectively applying your own rules is never a good idea when things are being recorded and reported live"

Perhaps I misunderstood you. It seemed to me that you were differentiating the two situations because one involved black people. Also, when you said Trump wanted to look like a tough guy for his supporters by intervening, I included black people as part of his supporters. He was gaining support from blacks that Republicans were usually not capable of doing, and I thought you might be saying that Trump was trying to look tough to those critical voters by sympathizing, using tough language, with their views on how the bad cop acted.

I can see how we look at it differently. I don't think Trump is a racist. I may be wrong, but I think you do believe he is a racist.

I didn't mention it, but I also disagree with what I took as your implication that because Trump claimed the states should handle some measures, PPE, etc., that "let the states handle it" meant they should handle everything. The pandemic plan created by the previous administrations indeed did put the responsibility for having stocks of various equipment, and that most of the responsibility for handling a pandemic was on the states. The Federal Government had some other tasks as well as backing up the states if they couldn't. So I didn't think that his view about that had anything to do with race.

[The Dad Fisherman]

That whole photo-op thing came off as idiotic.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

That whole photo-op thing came off as idiotic.
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It’s beyond idiotic. Lawful and peaceful protestors had their rights violently stripped because Trump had his feelings hurt. This is squarely in unfit for office territory.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

It’s beyond idiotic. Lawful and peaceful protestors had their rights violently stripped because Trump had his feelings hurt. This is squarely in unfit for office territory.
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you are unfit for posting....take a timeout in your safe space and check back later

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

That whole photo-op thing came off as idiotic.
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you know I respect your opinion, can you explain why?

I'm a fairly devout Catholic. I don't think for a nanosecond that Trump is a man of faith. but I saw that live, and I kind of liked it.

People are upset he stood in front of a church with a bible. They aren't nearly as upset that the church, an important historic landmark, was set on fire the night before.

People are upset that protesters were cleared out. Every single time the president wants to go somewhere, the secret service clears that area. And if people refuse the lawful order to clear the area, they are forcibly removed. If they were tear gassed, I'm willing to bet they refused to leave. That's on them.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you know I respect your opinion, can you explain why?

I'm a fairly devout Catholic. I don't think for a nanosecond that Trump is a man of faith. but I saw that live, and I kind of liked it.

People are upset he stood in front of a church with a bible. They aren't nearly as upset that the church, an important historic landmark, was set on fire the night before.

People are upset that protesters were cleared out. Every single time the president wants to go somewhere, the secret service clears that area. And if people refuse the lawful order to clear the area, they are forcibly removed. If they were tear gassed, I'm willing to bet they refused to leave. That's on them.

The optics were just terrible, from the man handling of the crowd, to the posturing in front of the church. It just looked idiotic. Poor execution, start to finish.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

People are upset that protesters were cleared out. Every single time the president wants to go somewhere, the secret service clears that area. And if people refuse the lawful order to clear the area, they are forcibly removed. If they were tear gassed, I'm willing to bet they refused to leave. That's on them.

From what I’ve read the secret service clears the park frequently. They don’t use tear gas or rubber bullets. They don’t rush the crowd with shields or attack reporters. They don’t use national guard medivac helicopters, with Red Cross insignia mind you, flying low to harass the crowd.

This was a planned overreaching show of force to make Trump feel like a tough guy. It is pathetic.
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