Happy Juneteenth

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by JohnR

With that said it sounds like, For You, it is OK for the people protesting to conduct their First Amendment right to peacefully assemble but not OK for Trump Supporters First Amendment right to peacefully assemble.

Let's not forget that when people gathered at the State House to protest because they just wanted the economy to open up and go back to work, they were called "Ignorant" and "Selfish" and need to "Stay Home" and "Save Lives". 3 weeks later and that didn't matter any more.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by JohnR

I don't think there should have been a rally, and I don't think there should have been protests that go against what was considered THEN necessary precautions (masks and six feet). I do not condone the violence.

With that said it sounds like, For You, it is OK for the people protesting to conduct their First Amendment right to peacefully assemble but not OK for Trump Supporters First Amendment right to peacefully assemble.

Another red herring argument .. criticism of Trumps rallies have nothing to do with restrictions on Trump fans 1st amendment rights..

And had everything to do with the Potus ingnoring the disease put his supporters and the public at risk for his own benfit ..

Thankfully only 6500 people took trumps bait and the rest stayed home ..
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[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

I don't think there should have been a rally, and I don't think there should have been protests that go against what was considered THEN necessary precautions (masks and six feet). I do not condone the violence.

With that said it sounds like, For You, it is OK for the people protesting to conduct their First Amendment right to peacefully assemble but not OK for Trump Supporters First Amendment right to peacefully assemble.

The protests are organic, they are the will of the people. The Trump rally is inorganic, it is the desire of a man. That's not to say the protests carry no risk, but even with large groups they are for the most part spread out outdoors with the majority wearing masks.

Further look at the output, protests are leading to meaningful change, the Trump rally was an embarrassment.

It's not a binary call but neither is there parity.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

The protests are organic, they are the will of the people.

The Trump rally is inorganic, it is the desire of a man.

The protests are the "will" of SOME people. And they don't erupt spontaneously, but are started and coordinated by some group or organization.

The Trump rally is inherently, similar to "protests" insofar as being "organic" (the will of some people to attend and coordinated by an organization). They are affirmative as opposed to being a complaint.

[Pete F.]

Protests and campaigns are in no way equivalent, just look at funding to start.
BLM budget maybe 6 million
Relect Tweety budget 996 million

And denying that Coronavirus is a problem is central to Tweety's campaign.

It's necessary for both his economic plan to just open things up and to conduct rallies in the very places most affected by Corona.
If some of the core does not accept his virus-denialism, that is BIG trouble. It means they doubt his reopening plans. It means they doubt his promise of a fast economic bounce back.

They doubt all his claims to have done a "great job" in the greatest crisis of his presidency.

Biden is an acceptable alternative wherein older, more conservative voters have both a place to go - and a reason to move.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Protests and campaigns are in no way equivalent, just look at funding to start.
BLM budget maybe 6 million
Relect Tweety budget 996 million

They are equivalent in Spence's terms of organicity.

And denying that Coronavirus is a problem is central to Tweety's campaign.

Trump doesn't categorically deny that Coronavirus is a problem. It is a matter of degree not of fact.

It's necessary for both his economic plan to just open things up and to conduct rallies in the very places most affected by Corona.
If some of the core does not accept his virus-denialism, that is BIG trouble. It means they doubt his reopening plans. It means they doubt his promise of a fast economic bounce back.

They doubt all his claims to have done a "great job" in the greatest crisis of his presidency.

Well, you and most of the mainline media have done your best to cast that doubt. If the polls are accurate, y'all may have succeeded.

Biden is an acceptable alternative wherein older, more conservative voters have both a place to go - and a reason to move.

Alternative between what? Constitutionalism and Progressivism? If you're a Progressive, Biden is your alternative. If you're a Constitutionalist, voting Democrat would be stupid.

[Pete F.]

America disagrees

This is what a campaign in free-fall looks like.

Tweety's job approval has never been higher than 47 percent and is currently in the low 40s.

He has trailed Joe Biden in all but four of the polls taken this cycle. Go look.

He is being out fundraised by Biden.

Unemployment is above 13 percent.

120,000 Americans have died of the coronavirus.

The right-track/wrong-track number now stands at -41.

And there are those empty seats.

He only has 18 weeks until the election.

There will firings from Tweety's campaign.

There will be more coronavirus deaths.

There will be debates against Biden which will not go well for Tweety. (Biden is an effective debater who has lots of recent practice. Tweety hasn't won a debate since the early 2016 primaries.) And only a desperate incumbent with a horrible record to run on would ask for more debates.

Tweety is the most unpopular president to run for reelection in our lifetimes.

He began his reelection effort already in the hole by 3 million votes.

The environment is objectively terrible for incumbents.

And Tweety trails the challenger by a larger and more consistent margin than any president in the history of modern polling.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

America disagrees

This is what a campaign in free-fall looks like.

Tweety's job approval has never been higher than 47 percent and is currently in the low 40s.

He has trailed Joe Biden in all but four of the polls taken this cycle. Go look.

He is being out fundraised by Biden.

Unemployment is above 13 percent.

120,000 Americans have died of the coronavirus.

The right-track/wrong-track number now stands at -41.

And there are those empty seats.

He only has 18 weeks until the election.

There will firings from Tweety's campaign.

There will be more coronavirus deaths.

There will be debates against Biden which will not go well for Tweety. (Biden is an effective debater who has lots of recent practice. Tweety hasn't won a debate since the early 2016 primaries.) And only a desperate incumbent with a horrible record to run on would ask for more debates.

Tweety is the most unpopular president to run for reelection in our lifetimes.

He began his reelection effort already in the hole by 3 million votes.

The environment is objectively terrible for incumbents.

And Tweety trails the challenger by a larger and more consistent margin than any president in the history of modern polling.

Sounds like it's all over but the shoutin'. Actually, there is a lot of shoutin' goin' on.

[Sea Dangles]

It all seems to be lining right up for the snowflakes to roll to the presidency again.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Sounds like it's all over but the shoutin'. Actually, there is a lot of shoutin' goin' on.

Tweety and his gang are screaming at and about Parscale, aren’t they?

It’s pretty hard for a demon to demonize his opponent, but Tweety’s gonna try
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Tweety and his gang are screaming at and about Parscale, aren’t they?

It’s pretty hard for a demon to demonize his opponent, but Tweety’s gonna try

Gonna have to start calling you Sylvester. You keep trying to take Tweety down.

[RickBomba]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

It all seems to be lining right up for the snowflakes to roll to the presidency again.
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Lookin good, Billy Ray!
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[Sea Dangles]

Feeling good Winthrop.