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07-08-2020, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Great, we agree the Dept. of Education should be abolished.
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No,
I’m saying Betsy is incompetent.
Our tax dollars hard at work.
Let her go back to being a rich elitist. She is the swamp.
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07-08-2020, 10:03 PM
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#32
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Originally Posted by RickBomba
No,
I’m saying Betsy is incompetent.
Our tax dollars hard at work.
Let her go back to being a rich elitist. She is the swamp.
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Yes, let's get rid of her so the Dept. of Education can get back to doing its stellar job of making American public education the miracle it had become before she came on board, especially for minorities.
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07-09-2020, 05:49 AM
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#33
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Yes, let's get rid of her so the Dept. of Education can get back to doing its stellar job of making American public education the miracle it had become before she came on board, especially for minorities.
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Your funny are you suggesting only privately run schools can successfully teach American and minorities..
Seems you fail to grasp the volume of students who pass thru our public schools or how their funded staffed ect.
And what you deem a measurement of success. Is absent from your response
And what has devos done to improve the system besides throw money at religous and private ones . Which has been her goal since day 1
Clearly our system doesn't treat all school and students equally and never has. And choice is only an option to those who wish to pay for it , or the willingness to to have their child travel hours to a charter school because they can't afford to live in that area.. with good schools .. this isnt just a minority issue its a rual issues as well
But for the right its not an issue at all .. they wish to fix . Its part of their national relection theme. They can't loose the base .. whom id wager 99% went to public schools . Who clearly failed them in civics and history
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07-09-2020, 07:08 AM
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#34
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Your funny are you suggesting only privately run schools can successfully teach American and minorities..
Seems you fail to grasp the volume of students who pass thru our public schools or how their funded staffed ect.
And what you deem a measurement of success. Is absent from your response
And what has devos done to improve the system besides throw money at religous and private ones . Which has been her goal since day 1
Clearly our system doesn't treat all school and students equally and never has. And choice is only an option to those who wish to pay for it , or the willingness to to have their child travel hours to a charter school because they can't afford to live in that area.. with good schools .. this isnt just a minority issue its a rual issues as well
But for the right its not an issue at all .. they wish to fix . Its part of their national relection theme. They can't loose the base .. whom id wager 99% went to public schools . Who clearly failed them in civics and history
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Civics,history and spelling.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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07-09-2020, 07:44 AM
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#35
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Civics,history and spelling.
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the left is trying to erase all of these 
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07-09-2020, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
the left is trying to erase all of these 
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Easy history question
What great achievement caused the statues of the Generals of the Confederacy to be erected?
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07-09-2020, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Easy history question
What great achievement caused the statues of the Generals of the Confederacy to be erected?
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I bet you Trump has no idea.
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07-09-2020, 09:02 AM
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#38
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Confederate lives matter
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07-09-2020, 09:12 AM
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#39
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Easy history question
What great achievement caused the statues of the Generals of the Confederacy to be erected?
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I don't have a problem with them being moved or removed by the local authorities but this business of criminals throwing tantrums and defacing and destroying them only results in more of the same...it's mindless, it breeds more violence and destruction.....it won't end with statues....
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07-09-2020, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
I don't have a problem with them being moved or removed by the local authorities but this business of criminals throwing tantrums and defacing and destroying them only results in more of the same...it's mindless, it breeds more violence and destruction.....it won't end with statues....
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I agree with the 1st part
But not the 2nd part local authorities
Have failed they have ingnored the people over those affluent donors who wish to see these statues stand going on with the its destroying history BS ..
Change throughout history has been accomplished by the mob.. this isnt new
Nor are the comments from Trump and others about the protester as enemys..
Fear of status tends to do that.. Trump is for Trump 1st. He just wraps the flag around him as a shield claiming hes standing in front defending America...but only the left deals in identity politics?
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07-09-2020, 12:33 PM
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#41
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Your funny are you suggesting only privately run schools can successfully teach American and minorities..
It's telling that you think my desire to have the federal Dept. of Education abolished means that only privately run schools can successfully teach Americans and minorities.
Perhaps you've missed my oft stated fact that the Constitution leaves education in the hands of the states and their citizens, NOT IN THE GRASP OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. Abolishing the national Dept. of Education does not do away with public schools. On the contrary, it frees up the states to do what the Constitution intended in the separate ways each state, locality, and citizenry desire and consider best for themselves.
Seems you fail to grasp the volume of students who pass thru our public schools or how their funded staffed ect.
You keep making these idiotic assumptions about me.
I am painfully aware of those things. What many fail to grasp re funding, as it has been and still is, the states and localities provide by far the most money for public education. The federal government provides only 2 percent.
And what you deem a measurement of success. Is absent from your response
Here's a measurement of success: http://www.tsowell.com/speducat.html
And what has devos done to improve the system besides throw money at religous and private ones . Which has been her goal since day 1
I am against the federal government throwing any money into the educational "system." I want the federal "system" regarding education totally abolished. Devos is irrelevant except insofar as she may do away with as much federal control as possible.
Clearly our system doesn't treat all school and students equally and never has. And choice is only an option to those who wish to pay for it , or the willingness to to have their child travel hours to a charter school because they can't afford to live in that area.. with good schools .. this isnt just a minority issue its a rual issues as well
But for the right its not an issue at all .. they wish to fix . Its part of their national relection theme. They can't loose the base .. whom id wager 99% went to public schools . Who clearly failed them in civics and history
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Is civics still taught? If it is, I suspect it's a very Progressively slanted version. Which would be a reason that the first thing that comes to many minds re education and its funding is the federal government.
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07-09-2020, 12:39 PM
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#42
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Is civics still taught? If it is, I suspect it's a very Progressively slanted version. Which would be a reason that the first thing that comes to many minds re education and its funding is the federal government.
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Butchie,
You talk like a cop.
I might be wrong, just noticing.
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07-09-2020, 01:14 PM
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#43
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Originally Posted by RickBomba
Butchie,
You talk like a cop.
I might be wrong, just noticing.
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No I’m picturing a very large x walleye fisherman in his mother’s basement, probably in his underwear, pontificating on multiple forums around the country and probably any other English speaking countries as well, because his knowledge and expertise are too important not to share. He can’t sleep much as his next political opinion has usually started to take shape in his brain as bedtime is yelled down by his mom.
The letters on his keyboard are barely legible at this point, even though it’s only a year old. On his desk is probably a picture of his last fishing rod he owned, he is holding it as his mother snapped a picture of his last big (two pounder) walleye, sitting next to three empty cans of Dinty Moore beaf stew, the spoons almost permanently clued to the bottom.
It’s a hard life keeping the world abreast of the correct interpretation of every political turn and twist, but we are lucky we have him here.
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07-09-2020, 01:25 PM
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I bet Butchie is just a scared cop from the Midwest.
Butch,
Am I right? If I’m wrong, I sincerely apologize.
If I’m right, why don’t you focus on helping the US where you live, instead of debating us in New England, where we help each other.
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07-09-2020, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
No I’m picturing a very large x walleye fisherman in his mother’s basement, probably in his underwear, pontificating on multiple forums around the country and probably any other English speaking countries as well, because his knowledge and expertise are too important not to share. He can’t sleep much as his next political opinion has usually started to take shape in his brain as bedtime is yelled down by his mom.
The letters on his keyboard are barely legible at this point, even though it’s only a year old. On his desk is probably a picture of his last fishing rod he owned, he is holding it as his mother snapped a picture of his last big (two pounder) walleye, sitting next to three empty cans of Dinty Moore beaf stew, the spoons almost permanently clued to the bottom.
It’s a hard life keeping the world abreast of the correct interpretation of every political turn and twist, but we are lucky we have him here.
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Yeah, you nailed it.
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07-09-2020, 01:46 PM
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#46
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Originally Posted by RickBomba
I bet Butchie is just a scared cop from the Midwest.
Butch,
Am I right? If I’m wrong, I sincerely apologize.
If I’m right, why don’t you focus on helping the US where you live, instead of debating us in New England, where we help each other.
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Not a cop. Actually I applied for police cadet training when I graduated from collelge, but was refused for the same reason I couldn't get into the navy. Some really bad ulcers. Ironically, they didn't really know much about what caused them then. So I spent 10 years bleeding all over the city of detroit. Come to find, it was just a simple bacteria, h pylori, easily cured with an anti-biotic formulated for it.
Would have loved the navy, though.
I do my part for the country where I am. Harassing you guys out East is fun.
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07-09-2020, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Not a cop. Actually I applied for police cadet training when I graduated from collelge, but was refused for the same reason I couldn't get into the navy. Some really bad ulcers. Ironically, they didn't really know much about what caused them then. So I spent 10 years bleeding all over the city of detroit. Come to find, it was just a simple bacteria, h pylori, easily cured with an anti-biotic formulated for it.
Would have loved the navy, though.
I do my part for the country where I am. Harassing you guys out East is fun.
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Actually, I tried to serve in the Navy, myself.
They noped me because I had prior knee and back surgery.
Obviously, 30 years later, I’m still kinda spry.
All us guys in the East are damn socialists anyway. We don’t listen.
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07-09-2020, 03:51 PM
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At least you guys picked the right branch :-)
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07-10-2020, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Change throughout history has been accomplished by the mob.. this isnt new
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it's good to know where people stand
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07-10-2020, 06:10 AM
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At least you guys picked the right branch :-)
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Yup.
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07-10-2020, 07:05 AM
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it's good to know where people stand
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it is 
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07-10-2020, 10:23 AM
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Holy #^&#^&#^&#^&,
We all got super-respectful after the weird Butch-Kevin-Rick talk about the Navy.
It’s pretty awesome. The rest of you #^&#^&#^&#^&ers have some #^&#^&#^&#^& to learn.
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