Remember that planned parenthood video ?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

OK Taliban Jim
If that was meant to educate,intimidate, or shame me then consider it a waste of time. I have no problem stating my position on this issue as you know. Next time I spill some jizz I will be thinking of you.
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My post was intended to refute yours. Why you would think I meant to intimidate is beyond me.

"Next time I spill some jizz I will be thinking of you."

Next time I do anything, rest assured I won't be thinking of you.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

OK Taliban Jim
INext time I spill some jizz I will be thinking of you.
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Gay
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

Gay
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[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Lmao good to see we still have a sense of humor . I bet you've been saving that one 😀
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[Nebe]

LOL !!!
Someone is gonna go to jail.

http://usat.ly/1VlTWN4
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Nebe

LOL !!!
Someone is gonna go to jail.

http://usat.ly/1VlTWN4
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On abortion, in general, I don't have firm opinion. Same for Planned Parenthood, except I absolutely do not want taxpayer money funding it. It should strictly be a private, either voluntary or for profit, organization. Selling baby parts, to me, is creepy. To say the least. But that's a personal opinion.

As for someone going to jail over the videos, that remains to be seen who:

http://theresurgent.com/a-harris-cou...cff4-266050641

[Nebe]

Tax payer funding never went to fund abortions.

My stance - abortions have their place in society. Completely banning it would be foolish. I'm a parent so you can know I chose life
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[DZ]

This could actually be good for the Center for Medical Progress and was no doubt anticipated. They will get to call many witnesses from Planned Parenthood and grill them on procedures. All of it will probably be broadcast live. Great PR for their cause that could expose PPs procedures.

[spence]

Originally Posted by DZ

Great PR for their cause that could expose PPs procedures.

The grand jury already found no wrong-doing on behalf of PP, I don't think that's likely.

The link Detbuch posted is incredibly deceptive, terrific spin…or, just a lie.

[DZ]

Originally Posted by spence

The grand jury already found no wrong-doing on behalf of PP, I don't think that's likely.

I understand that Spence, selling fetal tissue is not against current law. What The Center for Medical Progress is doing is trying to affect public perception of Planned Parenthood and its procedures. These videos exposed that practice to many who had no idea this program existed. Now the details will potentially come out from Planned Parenthood witnesses who will be under oath.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Tax payer funding never went to fund abortions.

My stance - abortions have their place in society. Completely banning it would be foolish. I'm a parent so you can know I chose life
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"Tax payer funding never went to fund abortions. "

Taxpayer funding frees up other PP funds to go to abortions. That's like saying "I didn't take water out of your side of the pail, I took it out of my side of the pail".

No one is going to jail for making the videos. They were indicted (justly, it would seem) for obtaining fake ids to fool their way into PP.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

No one is going to jail for making the videos. They were indicted (justly, it would seem) for obtaining fake ids to fool their way into PP.

And trying to illegally buy fetal tissue. I don't think the court will care if it was a sham sting operation or legitimate attempt. It's like soliciting for prostitution...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

It's like soliciting for prostitution...

Not a bad analogy. And it doesn't mean that the prostitute isn't a morally bankrupt POS.

[Fishpart]

Tyranny!!

Have we really descended to the point where we bring the law down on someone who exposes the organization that one of the TX State prosecutors sits on the board of..


According to Steven Ertelt at LifeNews dot com, one of the prosecutors in the Houston district attorney's office is a board member of the exact Planned Parenthood which was targeted by Center for Medical Progress.

[Nebe]

I think a lot of people don't understand that that video was selectively edited to show something that they would never do.
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[buckman]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I think a lot of people don't understand that that video was selectively edited to show something that they would never do.
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Then the editor is an absolutely magician . I saw the videos ,
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by buckman

Then the editor is an absolutely magician . I saw the videos ,
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Correct. Steven Spielberg has nothing on whoever edited those videos.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I think a lot of people don't understand that that video was selectively edited to show something that they would never do.
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Not sure what you are referring to. But after the public outcry, PP announced that they woul dno longer accept money in exchange for baby body parts, which means that previously, they WERE accepting money for baby body parts. Which means PP was doing exactly what the videos showed.

I keep hearing about 'selective editing', have never seen any explanation.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/planned-...sue-1444744800

Selling th ebaby body parts isn't illegal. I, for one, recognize that some scientific research needs to take place, and that to mak ethat happen, sometimes this might be necessary. It was the ghoulish and casual attitude of the PP staff that shocked the nation.

[wdmso]

Funny the Conservatives got caught hook line and sinker and went berserk for week over the edited videos. remember over a Video

and some here happy praise their skills..

Yet it was completely impossible not a snow balls chance in Hell .. that a Video could outrage people or have any influence what happen in Benghazi.. or any other place in the world

And I am not saying it did or it didn't just pointing out Conservatives tend to see others actions easily but they become instantly Blind when they do the same thing

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Funny the Conservatives got caught hook line and sinker and went berserk for week over the edited videos. remember over a Video

and some here happy praise their skills..

Yet it was completely impossible not a snow balls chance in Hell .. that a Video could outrage people or have any influence what happen in Benghazi.. or any other place in the world

And I am not saying it did or it didn't just pointing out Conservatives tend to see others actions easily but they become instantly Blind when they do the same thing

From the way you put it, it seems that you could say the same thing about "Liberals." Which should make it a wash. From the way you put it, both "Conservatives" and "Liberals" are berserk, blind, wackos.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

From the way you put it, it seems that you could say the same thing about "Liberals." Which should make it a wash. From the way you put it, both "Conservatives" and "Liberals" are berserk, blind, wackos.

Agreed the far left and the Far right of both parties do not represent the majority they just tend to yell louder

[spence]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Funny the Conservatives got caught hook line and sinker and went berserk for week over the edited videos. remember over a Video

and some here happy praise their skills..

Yet it was completely impossible not a snow balls chance in Hell .. that a Video could outrage people or have any influence what happen in Benghazi.. or any other place in the world

And I am not saying it did or it didn't just pointing out Conservatives tend to see others actions easily but they become instantly Blind when they do the same thing

Brilliant observation actually.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

Brilliant observation actually.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by detbuch

seemed more likely "apples and oranges" than "brilliant observation" ...good thing those two independent thinking far leftists don't represent the majority

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

seemed more likely "apples and oranges" than "brilliant observation" ...good thing those two independent thinking far leftists don't represent the majority

How do you see apples and oranges 2 types of conservatives going crazy over made up videos.. each it their own fashion.

manipulated by those who made the video who knew true followers would choose emotion over logic and the truth..

[Nebe]

Ah. There it is.


BENGHAAZZiiiiiiiiii. !!!!!!!!!!!
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by scottw

seemed more likely "apples and oranges" than "brilliant observation" ...good thing those two independent thinking far leftists don't represent the majority

Exactly. "apples and oranges".

One video was supposed to have caused something. The other exposed something. The only resemblance was the fact that they were both videos. Whatever that proves.

As for: "Yet it was completely impossible not a snow balls chance in Hell .. that a Video could outrage people or have any influence what happen in Benghazi.. or any other place in the world"--that's typical leftist straw man argument. No one is saying that the video could not outrage people. But as for its "influence", the problem is trying to characterize the attack as a spontaneous reaction to the video. It was known from the very beginning that it was an organized terrorist attack. The violence and threats had been going on in Libya well before the video was introduced. British and other Western embassies were pulling out of Libya. Their countries had nothing to do with the video. For that matter, neither did the U.S. government. Jihadist fatwas are usually against specific offenders. Salmon Rushdie was, and is, a target for his transgression. Britain was not a target because of his sin.

Could the video have been used as a gimmick motivation by Jihadists. Sure. It could be another "grievance" to add to the pile of other little motivational "tools" Jihadists throw against the wall. Why that video, at that time. There were hundreds (at least) of other outrageous anti-Muslim videos available. Any of them could have been used if it was necessary to help motivate an attack. And the pile of motivational "tools" includes everything the West does and is. Even the very fact that non-Muslims are in their countries and imposing Western ideas.

To say that the video was the reason for the attack, a spontaneous one to boot, is more than highly suspect. It supposes that the attack would not have occurred if that video had not been made.

NONSENSE.

I suppose we are to assume that it is "impossible" to think that the video was used as a prop to deflect from what actually went wrong at Benghazi.

The Planned Parenthood video, on the other hand, did not cause, or was not the reason for, what it purportedly exposed. And the way wdmso worded it is the very kind of "going crazy" reaction that he objects to. "Funny the Conservatives got caught hook line and sinker and went berserk for week over the edited videos."

The "conservatives" got caught? And "went berserk or a week"? So all the conservatives got caught and went berserk. Really? And the videos were edited? How do we know that? Because Planned Parenthood said so?

One thing is similar in both videos. Both video makers were indicted for wrong doing. I suppose "Conservatives" are guilty, and "Liberals" didn't do anything wrong. It would be "completely impossible not a snow balls chance in Hell" as wdmso put it, to think otherwise.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Exactly. "apples and oranges".

One video was supposed to have caused something. The other exposed something. The only resemblance was the fact that they were both videos. Whatever that proves.

As for: "Yet it was completely impossible not a snow balls chance in Hell .. that a Video could outrage people or have any influence what happen in Benghazi.. or any other place in the world"--that's typical leftist straw man argument. No one is saying that the video could not outrage people. But as for its "influence", the problem is trying to characterize the attack as a spontaneous reaction to the video. It was known from the very beginning that it was an organized terrorist attack. The violence and threats had been going on in Libya well before the video was introduced. British and other Western embassies were pulling out of Libya. Their countries had nothing to do with the video. For that matter, neither did the U.S. government. Jihadist fatwas are usually against specific offenders. Salmon Rushdie was, and is, a target for his transgression. Britain was not a target because of his sin.

Could the video have been used as a gimmick motivation by Jihadists. Sure. It could be another "grievance" to add to the pile of other little motivational "tools" Jihadists throw against the wall. Why that video, at that time. There were hundreds (at least) of other outrageous anti-Muslim videos available. Any of them could have been used if it was necessary to help motivate an attack. And the pile of motivational "tools" includes everything the West does and is. Even the very fact that non-Muslims are in their countries and imposing Western ideas.

To say that the video was the reason for the attack, a spontaneous one to boot, is more than highly suspect. It supposes that the attack would not have occurred if that video had not been made.

NONSENSE.

I suppose we are to assume that it is "impossible" to think that the video was used as a prop to deflect from what actually went wrong at Benghazi.

The Planned Parenthood video, on the other hand, did not cause, or was not the reason for, what it purportedly exposed. And the way wdmso worded it is the very kind of "going crazy" reaction that he objects to. "Funny the Conservatives got caught hook line and sinker and went berserk for week over the edited videos."

The "conservatives" got caught? And "went berserk or a week"? So all the conservatives got caught and went berserk. Really? And the videos were edited? How do we know that? Because Planned Parenthood said so?

One thing is similar in both videos. Both video makers were indicted for wrong doing. I suppose "Conservatives" are guilty, and "Liberals" didn't do anything wrong. It would be "completely impossible not a snow balls chance in Hell" as wdmso put it, to think otherwise.

"And I am not saying it did or it didn't"

but yet again feel free to hang your Hat on what you think I said

I in no way blamed Benghazi on the Video but you assigned that position to me.. you seem very good at that


I am sorry some can not grasp the similarities .. The outrage over un true made up videos made for 1 reason to decive and mislead those watching.. it seems lies from conservatives are ok it if the mission agrees with ones position .. but lies from the left or deception from the left seem far more heinous ???

I am only pointing that out .. and people get upset

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

"And I am not saying it did or it didn't"

but yet again feel free to hang your Hat on what you think I said

I thought I was hanging my hat on what you said when I replied to your "And I am not saying it did or it didn't" post by saying "From the way you put it, it seems that you could say the same thing about "Liberals." Which should make it a wash. From the way you put it, both "Conservatives" and "Liberals" are berserk, blind, wackos."

I in no way blamed Benghazi on the Video but you assigned that position to me.. you seem very good at that

I reread my post and couldn't find where I assigned that position to you. By implication, I assigned it to Clinton and to the Obama administration for claiming that the video caused a spontaneous attack.

I am sorry some can not grasp the similarities .. The outrage over un true made up videos made for 1 reason to decive and mislead those watching.. it seems lies from conservatives are ok it if the mission agrees with ones position .. but lies from the left or deception from the left seem far more heinous ???

It is a stretch to "grasp" a similarity when it doesn't really exist. The Planned Parenthood videos have been alleged by PP to be deceptively edited. That has not actually been established. And if it does so get established, I don't think "Conservatives" will continue to credit it as "some" on the left continue to believe that the Benghazi video was instrumental in a spontaneous attack.

I am only pointing that out .. and people get upset

Stating a position is not getting upset. And it is not "going berserk."

[Nebe]

There is a lot you can point out that some can't grasp. Don't get too worried.
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