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02-10-2020, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
we need more of this kind of deep thinking....
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Sad snarky person.
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
I am hoping you get the snarky that you richly deserve. Serve it up Paulie.
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I'm impressed.
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02-11-2020, 07:09 AM
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#2
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Originally Posted by PaulS
Sad snarky person.
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I'm only sad when you aren't around to play
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02-11-2020, 04:34 PM
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No surprise when Trump owns the AG
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02-11-2020, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
No surprise when Trump owns the AG
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Will be time for another impeachment soon.
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02-11-2020, 06:43 PM
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How is it that Stone isn't already in jail??? That seems like eons ago...
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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02-11-2020, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by nightfighter
How is it that Stone isn't already in jail??? That seems like eons ago...
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It’s just totally off the rails. This is the most corrupt administration I’ve ever seen. The GOP is totally complicit...it’s bizarre.
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02-11-2020, 08:24 PM
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#7
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This should be looked into,after the Limbaugh inquisition.
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02-11-2020, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
This should be looked into,after the Limbaugh inquisition.
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It is being looked into.
Spence, et. al., having been jumping the gun for the past three or four years, sopping up fake MSM news that has been wrong or misleading. There will be much more coming out that proves them wrong again (and again).
This is an inkling, re Stone and so much more (Ukraine, Flynn, Mueller . . . ) of more to come to make Spence's narrative as wrong as it has been all along:
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02-12-2020, 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
more to come to make Spence's narrative as wrong as it has been all along:
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we can give spence credit for being persistently wrong 
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02-12-2020, 08:30 AM
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#10
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Originally Posted by detbuch
It is being looked into.
Spence, et. al., having been jumping the gun for the past three or four years, sopping up fake MSM news that has been wrong or misleading. There will be much more coming out that proves them wrong again (and again).
This is an inkling, re Stone and so much more (Ukraine, Flynn, Mueller . . . ) of more to come to make Spence's narrative as wrong as it has been all along:
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1st take away Trump takes advice from Fox and acts
2nd Nunes love deepstate conspiracy
3rd eveythings is Obama's fault and his hold overs 
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02-12-2020, 08:15 AM
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Barr’s manifest interference in these cases—which Floridaman, who appointed him, is celebrating this morning—was started by the sudden shuttering of the special counsel’s office shortly after his confirmation and the transfer of its ongoing matters to US Attorneys’ offices.
Those transfers meant, for the Flynn and Stone cases, the DC US Attorney Jessie Liu stood in the shoes of Robert Mueller.
In recent days, Trump replaced Liu with one of Barr’s lackeys, initially promising her a Treasury job, and then unceremoniously dumping her.
Mueller documented all the ways Trump tried to fire him and damage his prosecutions when he was still on the job, and the WH aides that stood up to him.
Mueller’s successor actually was fired here, Mueller’s cases were damaged, and all the line prosecutors could do is resign.
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02-12-2020, 08:30 AM
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I believe all 4 prosecutors involved in the case resigned
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02-12-2020, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
I believe all 4 prosecutors involved in the case resigned
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draining the swamp
meanwhile...a communist is the democrat frontrunner
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02-12-2020, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
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Actually he's a Democratic Socialist and every bit as much of a Communist as Floridaman is a Nazi.
Floridaman's end results will be the same as Bernie's
Floridaman claimed that tariffs are “the greatest,” and trade wars are “easy to win,” but the economic backlash was easy to foresee. The political success of Bernie brought “democratic socialism” to 30% of the Democratic Party, Floridaman’s economic nationalism will end up at the same destination for all.
Floridaman’s tariffs enable him to directly pick winners and losers in the economy. The interests of steel workers are being placed above the interest of consumers and farmers. This leads to Floridaman using tax dollars to prop up farmers. Of course this spending means that consumers are hit, with their tax dollars paying for Floridaman's new welfare program. Floridaman's welfare goes to large corporate farms, he's losing support from the little guys. Probably things will trickle down to them.
Floridaman's tariffs cause businesses to seek ways around them, like Harley moving some manufacturing to Europe. This pissed off Floridaman. The more Floridaman digs in to protectionism, the more he will interfere with individual companies.
The domestic policy of government interference with business is a necessary corollary of present-day protectionism.
The result is an economy that increasingly replaces the market with state control.
Floridaman's policies are just as great a long term threat to the American economy as that posed by the Sanderistas.
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02-12-2020, 01:06 PM
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draining the swamp
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The current admin. Is turning our country into a cess pool.
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02-12-2020, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
The current admin. Is turning our country into a cess pool.
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such a sore loser......
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02-12-2020, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
such a sore loser......
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You should use "democrap" more.
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02-12-2020, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
The current admin. Is turning our country into a cess pool.
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Drama much?
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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02-12-2020, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Drama much?
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To bad Trump creates all the drama
"Congratulations to Attorney General Bill Barr for taking charge of a case that was totally out of control and perhaps should not have even been brought," Trump said on Twitter. "Evidence now clearly shows that the Mueller Scam was improperly brought & tainted. Even Bob Mueller lied to Congress!"
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02-12-2020, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Drama much?
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Dont think so. But thanks for adding to the discussion.
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02-12-2020, 08:32 AM
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Had Trump and his goons forced out Mueller and scuttled his prosecutions, it would’ve been a top level crisis. The same should be true for the people finishing his work.
It’s also a reminder that we never learned why Mueller closed his office so suddenly with so much left to do.
I think, in any congressional hearings that result from this, that has to be a key question now. Mueller and his people should come back to the Hill without a bunch of absurd prenegotiated restrictions and be candid about what happened to them under Whitaker and Barr.
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02-12-2020, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Had Trump and his goons forced out Mueller and scuttled his prosecutions, it would’ve been a top level crisis.
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think of the money we could have saved over what was nothing more than a democrat tantrum
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02-12-2020, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Floridaman's policies are just as great a long term threat to the American economy as that posed by the Sanderistas.
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Floridaman's policies are not long term. Trade wars are not meant to last long term. They are meant to resolve trade issues in the short term.
Before the Floridaman, we had the stagnant NewNormalman who resolved to continue the managed decline of America in the face of a presumed inevitable rise of China to replace us as the dominant world economic power which would take our place and replace the dollar as the primary world currency with its own Yuan.
Apparently, protectionism in other countries, at the expense of the U.S., didn't suffer the consequences in some of those countries that you say it should. But, it is likely, that if the U.S. decides not to be the patsy anymore, then that foreign protectionism will collapse, as you say it should. Ergo, the need for the U.S. to fight back, not by military war, but economic war.
Some of the Trade policies that hurt us pre-Floridaman have been peacefully negotiated (NAFTA, Japan, SKorea). Britain is coming up. China is in the works. Our economy is in fine shape. The new trade relationships should help to keep it that way.
If that all falls apart, it was heading into crap anyway.
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02-12-2020, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
If that all falls apart, it was heading into crap anyway.
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Because Floridaman is the "Chosen One"
Now explain what "redemption money" is and how it's paying for the wall
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02-12-2020, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Because Floridaman is the "Chosen One"
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Yes, he was chosen by the American people. A lot of them didn't like the policies of the NewNormalman, or the InvadeIraqman, or the Promisegoldbutdelivershineyturdstypicalpolitician-man.
Florida is a nice state.
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02-12-2020, 04:12 PM
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Drama, baloney, Floridaman just said he didn't know what Roger Stone did to deserve 9 years.
Here's the answer: Stone was convicted by a jury of his peers in a Federal Court of 7 felonies with a maximum sentence of 50 years. He lied, obstructed Congress and threatened a witness against him. 9 years is fair, within the sentencing guidelines and deserved.
Now we should ask why Floridaman doesn't understand that.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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02-12-2020, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Drama, baloney, Floridaman just said he didn't know what Roger Stone did to deserve 9 years.
Here's the answer: Stone was convicted by a jury of his peers in a Federal Court of 7 felonies with a maximum sentence of 50 years. He lied, obstructed Congress and threatened a witness against him. 9 years is fair, within the sentencing guidelines and deserved.
Now we should ask why Floridaman doesn't understand that.
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02-13-2020, 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
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So Floridaman doesn’t understand, because he listens to lying politicians on Faux?
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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02-13-2020, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
So Floridaman doesn’t understand, because he listens to lying politicians on Faux?
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Apparently, he understands more than the swampmen who have been wrong about "obstruction" and "collusion" and "abuse of power" and the collapse of the economy and are in cahoots with the lying leftist politicians.
The DOJ had already concluded that the sentencing was too harsh before Trump said anything. But the swampment had to create yet another fiction by saying that Trump corruptly influenced them.
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02-12-2020, 04:49 PM
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I love it. More feigned outrage from the flakes
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