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Old 12-02-2004, 05:52 PM   #1
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Angry Bush and salmon

Man i hate this guy

CNN.com - Massive salmon habitat cuts proposed - Dec 1, 2004 Page I of 2
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Bush administration plans more than 80 percent reduction in Northwest
GRANTS PASS, Oregon (AP) -- The Bush administration Tuesday proposed large cuts in federally designated areas in the Northwest and California meant to aid the recovery of threatened or endangered salmon. Protection would focus instead on rivers where the fish now thrive.
The critical habitat designation originally included rivers accessible to salmon, even if no fish occupied them, and covered most of Washington, Oregon and California and parts of Idaho.
Under the federal plan, critical habitats would be cut by more than 80 percent in the Northwest and 50 percent in California -- and more cuts might be ordered based on public comments over the next six months, said Bob Lohn, northwest regional administrator for NOAA Fisheries, the federal agency responsible for saving salmon from extinction.
Large areas could be cut where state and federal habitat protections are already in place, such as national forests and places where the economic benefits of development outweigh the biological benefits of habitat.
After a lawsuit brought by the National Association of Home Builders, the federal agency agreed to reconsider critical habitat designations for 13 groups of threatened or endangered salmon in the Northwest, and seven in California.
The home builders association has been chafing under the costs of getting federal permits for development in wetlands.
"Recognizing the importance of economic costs and trying to minimize the impact on industry in areas where there are low values to species and high economic costs are well in line with NAHB's policies," said Michael Miftelholzer, the association's director of environmental policy.
In another action Tuesday, NOAA Fisheries released the final version of its latest plan for operating hydroelectric dams on the Columbia and Snake rivers in Washington, Oregon, Idaho and Montana.
The plan is estimated to cost about $600 million a year over the next IO years, and relies heavily on construction of removable fish weirs on eight dams to increase the survival of young salmon migrating to the ocean. A federal judge must approve the plan before it goes into effect.
Both proposals were strongly opposed by environmentalists, Indian tribes and a commercial fishing group, which said the Bush administration was abandoning any hopes of restoring salmon beyond bare survival.
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Old 12-02-2004, 06:30 PM   #2
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read it in the ny times yesterday, clinton was actually FOR knocking down the dams etc. if need be in order to protect the species So, instead they were given 600 million over ten years to try and protect the species by building ladders n stuff. They'd do much better w/o the dams

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Old 12-02-2004, 07:07 PM   #3
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Old 12-02-2004, 07:30 PM   #4
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please don't get me started.
this is only the begining.

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Old 12-02-2004, 07:42 PM   #5
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Bush has and will continue to do everything in his power to increase logging with no regard for the environment.

None...

He really doesn't give a flying f*** about the air, oceans, forest or earth. It's all about pandering to business.

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Old 12-02-2004, 07:59 PM   #6
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Now lets not get going on this... i just wanted to grump
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Old 12-03-2004, 07:26 AM   #7
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This is the only thing about the Bush administration that has pissed me off. Did you know that the lead counsel for the Dept of the Interior used to be lead counsel for Weyerhauser? The goverment is trying to say that since 800,000 hatchery salmon are released every year that wild salmon aren't endangered.
One judge said that was the same thing as saying since there are 30 billion dogs in the country, wolves aren't endagered.

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Old 12-03-2004, 07:36 AM   #8
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Chief, I'm glad we have some common ground...

What's really scarry is that there's this kind of obvious corruption throughout the Administration and now our government.

Did you know that the EPA bigwigs let South Dakota use their own formulas to calculate how much pollution their coal burning plants were creating, over the objections of the EPA's own scientists who say it's fraud?

Republicans wonder why some Hate Bush so much, this is the real reason. He's fleecing the American people and the media is scared to death to touch the story
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Old 12-03-2004, 10:31 AM   #9
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Also, the lady who Bush apointed to the head of the EPA used to be a lobbyist for corperations that polluted.... WTF??

I agree with spence, My enviromental beliefs are the #1 reason why i cant stand the republicans in power at this time
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