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Old 09-04-2005, 05:29 PM   #1
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Lock Question?

Bought new Sclage locks for our house to replace the old ones (never know who has keys from the previous owners).....go to get extra keys made and find out that the keys for both lock sets are exactly the same???? They are seperate locking door knob sets and the keys from both sets open the other locks???? Does this sound strange to anyone else???? Couldn't I just take my key to another home with the same lock and let myself in? Or vice versa????

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Old 09-04-2005, 05:34 PM   #2
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nope...believe it or not thats very very unlikely...and look at it this way...

you never have to look for the front door key as apposed to the back door key
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Old 09-04-2005, 05:40 PM   #3
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there's just so many combo's you can do with x number of pin's in a lock,,you got lucky....no need to buy new door knobs/dead bolt's,,,the old one's could have been repined to change the code and just gotten new key's to match.

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Old 09-04-2005, 05:46 PM   #4
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They are sold in sets like that so you only have to have one key to get in the front door or back door.
They call it keyed alike.

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Old 09-04-2005, 06:36 PM   #5
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Schlage Locks are for the most part low security easily pickable locks. I would find a locksmith shop and tell them what level of security you want and spend the bucks for some really good deadbolts.
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Old 09-04-2005, 06:38 PM   #6
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These were 2 seperate sets though....same keys!

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Old 09-04-2005, 06:44 PM   #7
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Low Security. You can buy master key sets to open Schlage locks online...
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Old 09-05-2005, 12:58 AM   #8
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Put a couple of old, rusty cars (preferably old firetrucks, Mr. Miyagi pickups, and camaros) on your brown lawn, and no one's gonna even start to think of how they could get past those locks.

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Old 09-05-2005, 07:50 AM   #9
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Larry the boxes will have a code on them. This way you can pick through the lock sets and get as many keyed alike as you want. They probably have 20 different codes per store. If you really wanted to , you could hang around the store all day and wait for someone to but a set with the same code as you then follow them home. Besides if someone already has a key that will fit your new front door lock what difference does it make if both use the same key. Less keys to have to carry, and if someone really wants to break in they will key or no key.

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Old 09-05-2005, 07:57 AM   #10
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Yeah...thanks Bill...just found it odd is all...putting dead bolts on too! And wiring the house to explode if'n someone breaks in!

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Old 09-05-2005, 08:12 AM   #11
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And after you get done figuring out how to make your doors impossible to get into, think about all your glass windows. Without an alarm there is no way to keep people out if they any desire to get in.
I hope you did'nt get deadbolts that are keyed on the inside, if there was an emergency, fire or whatever, would you be able to open them?
A friend of mine managed an apartment complex in Jersey, had a unit with door and window alarms that they broke into without setting off the alarms. They cut thru the vinylsiding and nonstructural sheathing with a utility knife and were in in a couple of minutes.
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Old 09-05-2005, 08:14 AM   #12
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Nope...deadbolts have an interior latch/knob.

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Old 09-05-2005, 08:29 AM   #13
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no worries BIGFISH

about the locks...
as i already have my key .....
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Old 09-05-2005, 09:27 AM   #14
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look at it this way . If someone wants to get into your house , no lock or deadbolt is going to keep them out . A lock is only a device for a peace of mind for the home owner .
Or if they have a black hawk handy then nothing matters .
Like Specialist said they sell keyed alike sets .
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Old 09-05-2005, 10:48 AM   #15
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locks

Larry when you shop for locks if you look on the package you will see a number. If you buy packages with all the same numbers the locks will use all the same keys.

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Old 09-05-2005, 10:54 AM   #16
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locks

Their are only about 200 different combinations. The only a unique keys can be made is if a locksmith is call in to make up new keys for that particular lock.

Years ago I use to help my uncle out at his garage. One winter day I did a road service call for a mustang that would not start. We arrived at the beauty parlor and I hopped into the 70 stang and it started right up. I drove it to the garage in Rockland so he could look at it. Awhile later the same lady called and wondered why we hadn't pick up the car. We drove back with the mustang we took for service and found the other stang four or five spaces away. The keys I just used to take the wrong car started both mustangs. Thank god the first owner was under the drier in the parlor and didn't know we stole her car inadvertantly.

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Old 09-05-2005, 11:46 AM   #17
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keyed dead bolts on either side have been outlawed in mass for quite some time now...supplyer's here won't sell them.... my naba was in insurance for over 40 years..said when it come's down to paying off or not paying..all they want to know is was it forced entry or did they just walk in....if you come home to an empty house and you forgot to lock it up,,,,close the door and kick it in or break the window in the BACK of the house.....then sit back and watch your insur. rate's go sky high after you've put in a claim...I've been hit twice in my life time.

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Old 09-05-2005, 12:11 PM   #18
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When I was still in High School, I discovered that my Mom's Delmont 88 key would start my buddie's 63 Impala. I kept that to myself, but I did move his car everytime I caught it unattended. He thought he was going nuts!

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Old 09-05-2005, 12:14 PM   #19
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Forced entery?

Hell my borther-in-law can pick about 90% of the locks out there faster than you can blink.

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Old 09-05-2005, 04:58 PM   #20
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Homies had dead-bolts keyed on both sides CS. Raven....we had a good laugh at what you did with our house...too funny!

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Old 09-05-2005, 06:04 PM   #21
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In the early seventies my parents had a 72 Landrover, another family in town did also. My dad came out of the hardware store one day, got in his car (he thought), started it and as he went to drive away said "who put this stuff in here". Same car, same color, same key.

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Old 09-07-2005, 05:57 PM   #22
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[QUOTE=capesams]keyed dead bolts on either side have been outlawed in mass for quite some time now...supplyer's here won't sell them....QUOTE]

They had a whole chitload of them at Home cheapo last night!!!!!!????????

Good timing on this one BF because like I said we bought two new handles AND two new deadbolts last nite and my hubby says to me "find some that are keyed alike" ....so I did! A whole box of them and I said "youre kidding me"!!!! I had no idea! then the guy comes over and says "yeah gimme five minutes and I can get the deadbolts to match too" !!!????

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Old 09-07-2005, 09:10 PM   #23
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well ! they won't pass inspection with the fire or building inspector here..only keyed one side with knob on the other.we don't fight it..owner's want to live in their new home's.

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Old 09-07-2005, 09:23 PM   #24
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Raven....we had a good laugh at what you did with our house...too funny!
The Rav has waaay tooo much talent.

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Do both set of keys match exactly ? If so then the pins are also the same in both locks.

If the door is unlock when you insert the key then any key will move the bolt, that said, did you lock the door then use both keys to unlock? Does the same happen for the old lock ?

If the keys do not match up and if what you said is that both keys open both locks then what you have is a master key or a defected lock?
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Old 09-07-2005, 10:17 PM   #26
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skunks and deer cant pick locks, i wouldnt be too worried about this stuff in ur neck of the woods ;P
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well ! they won't pass inspection with the fire or building inspector here..only keyed one side with knob on the other.we don't fight it..owner's want to live in their new home's.
Capesams, I hope you didnt take that as a stab at your comment.....I had no idea they werent allowed in MA.....but I remembered seeing them in the store and was curious how a store can sell them if they arent allowed????I am sure there are a lot of people out there that would buy them not knowing. I personally think they are a bad idea because I can just picture myself trying to find my $#@!**&#^ keys during a fire or something and end up dying because I couldnt get out!!!

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heh heh

quote:by jenn.... because I couldnt get out!!!..

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heeheehee.......

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