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02-02-2006, 08:44 PM
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Frank Capone
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Hamden, Connecticut
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success with Bottle Plugs ?
just wondering how many of you make out with these plugs. I have a bunch of the older, gibbs bottles most are the medium size and some are the 1oz size (do they still make those ?) I usually put a siwash with bucktail on the tail end and upgrade the belly hook with a VMC. On the large 3oz, I remove the middle altogether and upgrade the front hook only.
I did fairly well in the rips of Martha's vineyard last year with the 2oz, hardly reeling at all-just let the plug "thump" in the current.
Any luck with these plugs ?
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02-02-2006, 09:37 PM
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Frank like any other plug they have there place. Rips, heavy swells,outflows and cross currents are where I use them, this winter I have been stocking up on bottle darters I cant wait to try them at a couple spots this season. I will bring one to the next meeting I go to.
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02-02-2006, 10:04 PM
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Frank Capone
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Hamden, Connecticut
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Pete:
bottledarter- is that a SS plug ?
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02-02-2006, 11:32 PM
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Nope the ones I have are made by some guy out on Long Island, got them through a freind.
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02-03-2006, 12:18 AM
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Where'd he go?
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Rhody
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I have great success with bottle plugs, I like the Gibbs three oz but like the Super Strike even more for it's durability. Add split rings and VMC's and you are good to go.
Also do very well with Tattoo darters.
As mentioned it's about location and conditions.
Pete I'd be interested in seeing a picture of this bottle/darter.
Last edited by In The Surf; 02-03-2006 at 12:24 AM..
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02-03-2006, 12:22 AM
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INS- it basically a bottle plug with a slope on the head.
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02-03-2006, 12:36 AM
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Where'd he go?
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I'm guessing it goes's from the full round body to a narrow neck back to a full sloped head with a zigzag lip. Sounds interesting, give us a post on it's action and how it produces in the future.
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02-03-2006, 06:08 AM
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Frank Capone
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Hamden, Connecticut
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I have a bunch of the older Gibbs in small -1oz and Medium-2oz.
I've had mixed results with them. Maybe I should just use them more.
Pete -I'm sure that I've seen those slope-head plugs around.
I'll have to steal a couple when your not looking.
Frank
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02-03-2006, 08:49 AM
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You dont see to many folks using bottle plugs regularly these days, but I was very successful this past season using SS bottles in all the same conditions I would use a darter. And not necessarily rough surf or running rips.
I have alot of the older Gibbs, but found solid black Superstrikes were the only choice.
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Sooner or later you're going to realize just as I did that there's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path. - Morpheus
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02-03-2006, 09:29 AM
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Frank Capone
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Hamden, Connecticut
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Chris:
Are you fishing the SS "out of the package" or putting siwash/bucktail on the tail end ?
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02-03-2006, 09:59 AM
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out of the package
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Sooner or later you're going to realize just as I did that there's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path. - Morpheus
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02-03-2006, 10:38 AM
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Also, Ive always felt that movement of a bottle plug, similar to plastic finish style swimmers, is what draws strikes. It doesnt wiggle like a metal lip or dart like darters. Bottles generally do a rolling, thumping motion of which the SS is more defined than any other brand Ive tried
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Sooner or later you're going to realize just as I did that there's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path. - Morpheus
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02-03-2006, 11:08 AM
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Frank Capone
Join Date: May 2005
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thanks Chris:
I think I'll try to pick a few SS bottles up
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02-03-2006, 11:09 AM
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Night Stalker
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Thanks for sharing your success with the ss bottle plugs. I have a few and they will surely make it into my bag this season.
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02-03-2006, 11:14 AM
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It's about respect baby!
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Bottle plugs accounted for many nice fish for myself and the two guys I fish reguarly with. I did pretty well on a gibbs green mac, I faded by leaving it in the window over the winter. Fcap, you'll love the bottle darters  Pete, are you getting the northbar tackle ones or a dif. maker? |
Domination takes full concentration..
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02-03-2006, 12:15 PM
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NorthBar
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02-03-2006, 12:19 PM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
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This is a great thread. I have a handful of gibbs 3ozs that my Dad handed down. I have only tossed them a few times.
They seem to dive when in a current, do they go too deep? Also, do you work them slow, like a danny so they make a V, or is it strictly darter type outflows/rips?
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02-03-2006, 12:22 PM
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any pics?
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thats why they call it fishing not catching
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02-03-2006, 12:30 PM
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The SS ones are great. They work real well if you bring up tension on the plug and kinda let it get tossed around in the wash...always under tension. Theyll hit the thing when u least expect it.
They are actually one of my confidence plugs whens the surfs up, and they do catch just gotta have the right technique.
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02-03-2006, 07:12 PM
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whatever you do, do not put a swivil&flaptail on a bottle plug.
nope
never.
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02-03-2006, 07:42 PM
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Nebe
whatever you do, do not put a swivil&flaptail on a bottle plug.
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Do you tie direct, which knot, if so would you also tie direct on a darter since their similiar ?
Why direct tie ? |
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02-03-2006, 10:11 PM
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Seldom Seen
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Nebe
whatever you do, do not put a swivil&flaptail on a bottle plug.
nope
never.
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Grasshopper; come hither. When you hear this man speak in such terms, you do the exact opposite!
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02-03-2006, 07:20 PM
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Frank Capone
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Hamden, Connecticut
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Nebe:
I was wondering where your creative response to this post was.
Thanks and I won't do it.  |
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