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Old 11-16-2006, 10:52 PM   #1
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Excuse me, Wader

I used the Orvis Silver Label II breathables BF and had them fail after 2 months of use, nearly every seam failed. Used the family size of Aqua Seal on them back in September since there was no way I was going to send them back at that time.. Which made them only a little less leaky. Now they are finally going back to Orvis for repairs. Might get myself a backup pair of waders, other than my neoprenes. Do alot of walking, so I prefer breathable.

What type of waders do you use. Breathable/rubber/neoprene/BF/SF? What brand? and how have they treated you over the year(s)?

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Old 11-17-2006, 06:29 AM   #2
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I have the same waders in the stockingfoot. Had them for 4 years and they are still holding out great. I wash them after every use, hang dry then roll them up to store them. Still water-tight and very comfortable

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Old 11-17-2006, 07:34 AM   #3
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I have no trouble with mine...love them! Sometimes there is a bad one in the batch I guess.

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Old 11-17-2006, 08:25 AM   #4
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Silver labels......great waders.......if only there was a pair available.....
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Old 11-17-2006, 11:38 AM   #5
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Waders

You missed my Hodgemen grumpage post. Two pair started leaking on vacation and they replaced both after almost two years.

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Old 11-17-2006, 12:22 PM   #6
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In the last 3 seasons I have been through 2 pair of simms breathables (light weight and guide weight), 1 cabelas (cheapo pair), 1 ll bean (they were out of stock but will be replacing in jan when they restock), 1 pair of neoprenes (can't think of the name right now, they were pretty pricey though) and i have a pair of hodgeman neoprene's that i have been wearing recently. so far so good, but only about 15-20 trips in them. they are really warm though, it was great on the 30 degree nights we had the first weekend of nov, but im anxious to get my breathables back. it seems to me that any pair of waders are going to break down after enough use.im for a good pair though.
check out cloudeville i have heard they are decent, pricey though.

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Old 11-17-2006, 08:09 PM   #7
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Seems there isnt a pair that stands out among the rest. Guess I will keep looking and reading. Thanks for the info though.

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Old 11-17-2006, 09:06 PM   #8
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Check out Gra-lites. I've been thinking of picking them up for the shop.

There's a few other "commercial" waders out there too. Stuff for marching through cranberry bogs in.

They aren't pretty, or light, or breathable. All business...

Higher end Simms are great waders too, much thicker and tougher then the less expensive breathable waders from almost all companies, but, $$.
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Old 11-17-2006, 09:39 PM   #9
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Check out Gra-lites. I've been thinking of picking them up for the shop.

There's a few other "commercial" waders out there too. Stuff for marching through cranberry bogs in.

They aren't pretty, or light, or breathable. All business...

Higher end Simms are great waders too, much thicker and tougher then the less expensive breathable waders from almost all companies, but, $$.

Gra Lites are not for the taller guy. And pvc suffers badly from condensation. Water beads up on pvc even when just lying on the lawn and the sun is setting. You don't have to sweat. Just be warm and wade into cold water. Bingo. Perspiration turns to water. I would stay away. Doesn't anyone make a tough (TOUGH) breathable? Orvis make those cordura breathables for hunting, Church creek or something like that. What about those?
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Old 11-17-2006, 10:46 PM   #10
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Gra Lites are not for the taller guy. And pvc suffers badly from condensation. Water beads up on pvc even when just lying on the lawn and the sun is setting. You don't have to sweat. Just be warm and wade into cold water. Bingo. Perspiration turns to water. I would stay away. Doesn't anyone make a tough (TOUGH) breathable? Orvis make those cordura breathables for hunting, Church creek or something like that. What about those?
are they called endura? those seem to be the cheapest of the Orvis waders

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Old 11-17-2006, 11:05 PM   #11
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are they called endura? those seem to be the cheapest of the Orvis waders
I'm not saying these are good, just an idea. The lace up does not have insulation in the boot.

http://www.orvis.com/store/product_c...Dchurch&bhqs=1
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Old 11-18-2006, 01:39 AM   #12
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oh I was looking at the endura ones. Those church creek look like a possibility. Pricy though.

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Old 11-18-2006, 05:02 AM   #13
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Went to 4 pairs of Silver labels last year ,the boot kept splitting for no apparent reason.Send a letter to CEO and spoke with him on the phone.Finely ,6 months latter got a replacement with redesigned boot which should off corrected the problem.............they are still in the box 11 month latter.I am paranoid even to put them on.I own two pair of Tailwaders and one silver labels.I guess I dropped more than $700 in Orvis but will not spend another penny.I lost faith in the products....
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both of my tailwaders are leaking right now......no time for fixing thou ,fish still around.Lots of wet pants

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Old 11-18-2006, 09:07 AM   #14
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If you can deal with the camo patterns

One pair is very warm the other breathable

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...0033341830660a

Ooops.... look at the brushbusters for strong but warm waders....could`nt do the double link.

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Old 11-18-2006, 09:42 AM   #15
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looks like they don't come in felt soled. Felt soled waders fit better with korkers. The boots with the heel dont fit well.

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Old 11-18-2006, 11:15 AM   #16
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I just picked up a pair of Hodgman 4mm neoprenes for winter shellfishing.

My fishing waders are an older pair of Orvis Pro Guides. I had Silver Labels and had two pair of those cheap suspender buckles break. After the second one, I exchanged them for Pro Guides, which have clip-on suspenders. They've held up fine.

My next pair will probably be those Simms G-3 or whatever they're called.

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Old 11-18-2006, 11:21 AM   #17
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Cabelas Guide Tech 2. Lace up attached bootfoot with felt sole. Extra material around leggs and backside. Very light and comfortable. Reasonably priced also. Haven't had a problem yet.
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Old 11-18-2006, 11:26 AM   #18
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Waders - good product to lose money on. Go for the ones with the 100% warranty - you're gonna need it.

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Old 11-18-2006, 03:56 PM   #19
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Waders - good product to lose money on. Go for the ones with the 100% warranty - you're gonna need it.
I am on my 3rd pair this year, And my new ones just started to leak again at BI last week, we were lucky it was warm last week, I get the LL Bean waders. I may try thr Wicked Tough or the Simms Guide series, Next.

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Old 11-18-2006, 05:45 PM   #20
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The older model Patagonia SST waders were pretty tough. I haven't seen the their latest generation though...
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Old 11-18-2006, 08:35 PM   #21
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I I get the LL Bean waders. I may try thr Wicked Tough or the Simms Guide series, Next.
Im on my 3rd pair of ll bean wicked tough this season, even with not fishing for 7 weeks of the season
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Old 11-18-2006, 09:30 PM   #22
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I got the orvis pro guides stookingfoot waders this year on sale for $175 they are very nice, the first pair did leak at the seams in the crotch my second pair have held up fine under some serious abuse.
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Old 11-18-2006, 09:48 PM   #23
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Old 11-19-2006, 12:43 PM   #24
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If you don't want to break the bank these are it:

http://cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templa...l&N=4887&Nty=1

Much better than Orvis.

Cabelas customer service speaks for itself especially when its a product with their name on it.
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If you don't want to break the bank these are it:

http://cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templa...l&N=4887&Nty=1

Much better than Orvis.

Cabelas customer service speaks for itself especially when its a product with their name on it.
wow those do look nice & sound durable & come in felt sole.
I may just give those a try. The price is right too. 9's & 10's are out of stock with no arrival date as of 11-19-06. And they could not tell me anything about the warranty information.

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I am seriously concidering a wet suit next season, at least in the fall.

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I am seriously concidering a wet suit next season, at least in the fall.
Yeah, That seems like the best solution. I am definately going to be doing more of that next year. Ive always had spots that ive eyed but couldnt get to with my waders. Would say,"If only I could fish on THAT rock, I could catch more fish".

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Old 11-20-2006, 01:50 PM   #28
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Went thru 2 pairs of cabela's breathables in two years. First pair was replaced, second pair they sent me 3 tubes of aqua seal. Do not trade at Cabela's any longer, purchased a pair of LLBean's attached boot breathables, no trouble so far.
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First pair was replaced, second pair they sent me 3 tubes of aqua seal.
Thats a slap in the face.

"Hey good luck"

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Use your waders just for wading. Not hiking or rock climbing. If you fish spots where you have to take exaggerated steps to get up on rocks - just that motion alone is going to compromise the seam on the upper thigh and crotch. If all your spots are like that then it's time to consider a wetsuit - you're just going to burn through waders.
Get a pair of hip boots and splash pants and use them on the breachways, jetties, cliffs and shallow boulder fields.

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